Grandstand: Mansfield

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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Marky » February 13th, 2018, 11:52 pm

Bush wrote:
Percy plunkett wrote:If Frank starts Saturday.........


I believe frank should be dropped but his name is constantly picked out. Every game I watch I'm constantly thinking what does pipe bring to this team anymore about from giving the ball away giving his winger too much space to get a cross in. Yet nothing ever mentioned about him. For me I want to see Reid/Barnum-bobb, O'Brien, tozer, sheehan and maclausky all come in on Saturday.


We've got six quality players without whom the side is definitely weaker in White, Day, Amond, Labadie, Buttler and Demitriou, the rest of the squad are interchangeable. I was disappointed to see Rigg and Williams go but we've still go a raft of other options that are not being utilised, either they need to start playing or we need to be told what the hell is going on.
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Bush » February 13th, 2018, 11:57 pm

Marky wrote:
Bush wrote:
Percy plunkett wrote:If Frank starts Saturday.........


I believe frank should be dropped but his name is constantly picked out. Every game I watch I'm constantly thinking what does pipe bring to this team anymore about from giving the ball away giving his winger too much space to get a cross in. Yet nothing ever mentioned about him. For me I want to see Reid/Barnum-bobb, O'Brien, tozer, sheehan and maclausky all come in on Saturday.


We've got six quality players without whom the side is definitely weaker in White, Day, Amond, Labadie, Buttler and Demitriou, the rest of the squad are interchangeable. I was disappointed to see Rigg and Williams go but we've still go a raft of other options that are not being utilised, either they need to start playing or we need to be told what the hell is going on.


I'd add o'brien and tozer to that list to be fair. O'Brien been a victim of the formation change which is why I think we need a back 3 with our best 3 CB's.
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Bush » February 14th, 2018, 12:00 am

Percy plunkett wrote:
Bush wrote:
Percy plunkett wrote:If Frank starts Saturday.........


I believe frank should be dropped but his name is constantly picked out. Every game I watch I'm constantly thinking what does pipe bring to this team anymore about from giving the ball away giving his winger too much space to get a cross in. Yet nothing ever mentioned about him. For me I want to see Reid/Barnum-bobb, O'Brien, tozer, sheehan and maclausky all come in on Saturday.

Jazzy is in cold storage,why who knows,Reid was very poor at Colchester so didn't do himself any favours.I want Hayes to start a game but how bad is his injury.Agree with most of the others although Shawn is a impact sub so would start with Hayes if fit.How about Collins in Robbie's role,shall I put my tin hat on.


I don't think you need your tin hat on. I agree. If he continues with 3 up top then why not try collins in one of the wide roles? I'd still prefer not to play a front 3 but have armond or Hayes in front of sheehan.
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Stan A. Einstein » February 14th, 2018, 12:09 am

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Ok, prove it. Post absolutely anything, anywhere, other than your previous post, that has any journalist, manager, pundit, or anyone else indicating that when a team loses 6 matches (not 5, not 7) the manager is sacked "as a rule of thumb".


Very few managers will survive six consecutive defeats. Just look at the sackings so far this season, or any season for that matter.

More worrying is that the spirit in the team seems low. County were playing badly but picking up points in the early part of the season. That showed a good spirit if nothing else.

I am beginning to wonder if there has been a major falling out behind the scenes. As I said this is Flynn's first real challenge. It was bound to come. Whether as a manager Flynn has the potential to kick on I think we are about to find out.

The greatest manager of all time in the English game was, love him or loathe him, Alex Ferguson. His philosophy was no matter how great a player was if he gave you trouble he was out. Beckham and Keene being prime examples. Whether Flynn has such character the time has perhaps come to see.
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Bush » February 14th, 2018, 12:15 am

Stan A. Einstein wrote:
SJG99 wrote:
Ok, prove it. Post absolutely anything, anywhere, other than your previous post, that has any journalist, manager, pundit, or anyone else indicating that when a team loses 6 matches (not 5, not 7) the manager is sacked "as a rule of thumb".


Very few managers will survive six consecutive defeats. Just look at the sackings so far this season, or any season for that matter.

More worrying is that the spirit in the team seems low. County were playing badly but picking up points in the early part of the season. That showed a good spirit if nothing else.

I am beginning to wonder if there has been a major falling out behind the scenes. As I said this is Flynn's first real challenge. It was bound to come. Whether as a manager Flynn has the potential to kick on I think we are about to find out.

The greatest manager of all time in the English game was, love him or loathe him, Alex Ferguson. His philosophy was no matter how great a player was if he gave you trouble he was out. Beckham and Keene being prime examples. Whether Flynn has such character the time has perhaps come to see.


Not many of those manager sacked after 6 defeats have an incredible miraculous escape from relegation and a cup run that including beating one of the biggest championship sides then drawing with one of the best teams in Europe which resulted in a trip to Wembley and bringing in nearly a million pound. And as I've also said commiting to the team with a contract extension which is rare for managers at this level when their stock is high. I'd say if he lost every game this season he should still be given the chance to run the club next year. Doesn't mean I can't critise his decision making just that I believe he has earnt the chance to make his errors at this club.
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Justanordinaryfan » February 14th, 2018, 2:13 am

As bad as I can ever remember tonight. As per Worksop Amber .... take a bow Joe Day, heaven knows what it would have been tonight without him!!
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Harps62 » February 14th, 2018, 8:47 am

Justanordinaryfan wrote:As bad as I can ever remember tonight. As per Worksop Amber .... take a bow Joe Day, heaven knows what it would have been tonight without him!!

Well done for making the trip though.
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby owlsabout » February 14th, 2018, 9:16 am

At a loss getting hammered 4 nil HT and brings Jackson on instead of MCcoulsky am i missng something here ????
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby George Street-Bridge » February 14th, 2018, 9:26 am

owlsabout wrote:At a loss getting hammered 4 nil HT and brings Jackson on instead of MCcoulsky am i missng something here ????


Yes. Game was already lost, can risk some game time for Jackson when it won't affect the result. .
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Justanordinaryfan » February 14th, 2018, 9:57 am

Think at 0-4, he just wanted to get some game time into him, I appreciate we all cannot see why, it’s the only explanation I can offer, I was hoping Sheehan was also gonna get some ?? I can only assume Bennett’s injury through his last substitution plan into disarray?
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Harps62 » February 14th, 2018, 10:04 am

Why week in week out are we hoofing the ball up to Padraig.
Thought this team of ours could play a bit on the ground.
Poor fella albeit pretty good in the air is also slow and out on his own up there.
Just does not make any sense.
Daft thing is possibly our best lad in the air is our smallest player Dan
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Amberexile » February 14th, 2018, 10:11 am

Teams have sussed that our passing falls apart if you put a bit of pressure on us.
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby mad norm » February 14th, 2018, 10:28 am

So what happened to that team that put on such a skillful and professional performance against Spurs at Rodney Parade..a ram that constantly went forward and played for each other?
Cannot believe what's happening
My gut feeling is Flynn'y is too conservative and would rather try not to lose than try to go all out for a solid win
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Justanordinaryfan » February 14th, 2018, 10:35 am

Spurs was a different genre.

They didn’t wanna out their foot in ..... they let us have it until we gave it back in a passive state, mostly in non dangerous areas.

Mansfield bullied us, harrased us, and made us give them the ball in wrong/dangerous areas which they punished us (actually missed easy chances too).

Also adrenaline and Wembley got us through the Spurs games, plus don’t forget if Llorente could actually kick a ball straight, it would have been 4/5 at Wembley too.

Adrenaline and fear can get you through a game, it can’t get you through a season.
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Re: Grandstand: Mansfield

Postby Harps62 » February 14th, 2018, 10:45 am

Amberexile wrote:Teams have sussed that our passing falls apart if you put a bit of pressure on us.

Problem is the long ball is far worse.
Didn't happen with Leeds etc when we played it out wide to Robbie & Frank.
Straight hoofing down the middle needs 2 fellas both good in the air up front.
No need for Robbie to even play.
This all starts with Joe who presumably has been instructed not to do a Spurs, pass to either full back and move forward but to kick it as far as possible down the middle and prey Padraig wins it but then he has nobody to feed off him.
Tactics are useless currently.
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