Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Alan G Bryant wrote:It is not a great post , it is another post from someone that simply does not grasp the concept of owning a football club. The club have not forced the rewards and benefits because they have not needed to, the windfalls and cup monies have ensured that, so why ask supporters for money that is not needed yet, could you imagine the outcry? All they are highlighting is that without these windfalls we will need to cough up to compete in league 2 or look at other viable options.

To put it another way, If you own a car, you have to find the money for the repairs, the same with the house you own, so why should we expect to own a football club for £10 yet complain when we have to pay for the repairs? It is our responsibility to find the money as we currently own the football club.

We can argue all day about the why's and wherefores of directors making this decision or that decision, but we need to remember that in 3 years we have not been asked to pay for any repairs, I cannot think of many other league 2 club owners that can say the same.

In my view what Kate has said is the best post I have ever read on this board. I genuinely wish she was on the board of Newport County, perhaps she might reign in some of the egos. She also gets the point far too many involved with the club miss. If people don't feel included and involved they won't part with their cash.

Hi Stan, a few weeks ago you offered to post me a copy of the agreement/lease/whatever between oursetand the WRU on RP, it hasn't arrived yet. Do you need me to resend you my address?

How is it that the BBC Sports Website can give a bit more information than the live blog meeting and the South Wales Argus put together

This is a copy and paste from the BBC Sports Website.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44255428

Newport County: Fans to have say over club's potential sale


Newport County AFC could be put up for sale with the supporter-run club asking fans to have their say on its future.

The League Two club have launched a consultation with fans asking whether to continue its current ownership model, invite outside investment or even takeover offers.

They have also called for talks over the cost of remaining at Rodney Parade.

Newport's Supporters Trust completed a takeover of the club in October 2015 with an elected board of directors.

The club recorded a loss of £351,456 in their most recent accounts (year ending June 2017) although they expect to post a profit next year following the windfall from FA Cup games with Leeds United and Premier League club Tottenham Hotspur, who they forced to a fourth-round Wembley replay.

However, fans were told at a public meeting that relying on such cup runs and player sales to boost donations from their 1,500 members - currently amounting to £30,000 a year - was not sustainable.

Among the issues raised was the cost of playing at Rodney Parade. Newport County has signed a lease with the venue's owners - the Welsh Rugby Union - until 2023 but claim that costs have "increased by 100%".

Director Kevin Ward told supporters there has been no change to the original deal agreed by the club's previous board, but said: "It wasn't very good."

He added: "The value of us being at this ground is important.

"The future of us being here isn't one we can answer, the whole of the city has to be involved in it and that's why we're in the process of speaking to different stakeholders of how we go forward.

"My view is the preferential position is to remain at this venue, but if we were to carry on with our current situation (and) the current terms of the licence we play under, that's not viable - and we have to make those decisions fairly quickly."

In an document handed to supporters on behalf of the board, the club stated they had spoken to the WRU over the issue and that there are areas where the club "do not agree with what it is being asked to pay".

Directors say they do not blame the WRU, who have levied additional costs to meet health and safety requirements, but are committed to paying £50,000-per-season over five years following the installation of a new pitch and drainage, funded by the WRU at a cost of around £750,000.

The club insist they have introduced "robust controls" and has limited debt, but added this was the right time to debate a "sustainable ownership model."

That could involve part-funding through new investment or even putting the club for sale for a full takeover.

The consultation period will last until 4 July before a potential vote, with the the club adding: "Any decision on the club's future ownership will be made by Trust members."


The Newport Wrote :
I ask once again how much does it cost us to play at Rodney Parade?
And why should we pay an extra £50,000 per season. Is it not true that they damaged the pitch in the first place.
Did we not pay for the pitch to be repaired before that and never asked The Dragons or Newport Rugby for any money at all?

The Newport wrote:

Kevin Ward wrote:

Skate Exile wrote:I am far more concerned by we seem not to have a training ground with pre season starting in a months time. The fact we have only give a proposal to the FAW does not full me with confidence.

Hi Skate Exile
There are no problems with the training ground - this remains at Spytty Park with the team having use of other facilities (pool, gym, 3G etc) at NISV.
The issue we’re trying to resolve is replacing the former Bar Amber, which has been used as the training base (ie where the players eat, relax & socialise together).

Hi Kevin
Would it be possible to organise some sort of fundraising over the following season. I understand that one of the directors use to be involved with fundraising for the academy awhile back.

What sort of figures are we talking about to replace the building at Newport Stadium?
One more question. Wouldn't the building insurance cover the cost or wasn't it insured?

Hi Kevin,
You reply to a thread on here. But when I ask you a question you don't reply. Why is that?
And before anyone says that he might not be looking at the site. That wouldn't be true because I have been told that most of the directors look at this site quite often.

The Newport wrote:

The Newport wrote:Hi Kevin
Would it be possible to organise some sort of fundraising over the following season. I understand that one of the directors use to be involved with fundraising for the academy awhile back.

What sort of figures are we talking about to replace the building at Newport Stadium?
One more question. Wouldn't the building insurance cover the cost or wasn't it insured?

Hi Kevin,
You reply to a thread on here. But when I ask you a question you don't reply. Why is that?
And before anyone says that he might not be looking at the site. That wouldn't be true because I have been told that most of the directors look at this site quite often.

Hi
Because I’ve been working. Just got in after an evening meeting with a client.
The best way to be certain of getting hold of me is by email - kevin@kevinwardmedia.com - I’m not on here regularly I’m afraid.
I’ve not been dealing directly with the Bar Amber issue so I don’t know the detail around it, but I’ll check for you and get back to you.
It won’t be until after the weekend though as I’m away for a couple of days celebrating my partner’s birthday. Cheers.

Kevin Ward wrote:

The Newport wrote:

The Newport wrote:Hi Kevin
Would it be possible to organise some sort of fundraising over the following season. I understand that one of the directors use to be involved with fundraising for the academy awhile back.

What sort of figures are we talking about to replace the building at Newport Stadium?
One more question. Wouldn't the building insurance cover the cost or wasn't it insured?

Hi Kevin,
You reply to a thread on here. But when I ask you a question you don't reply. Why is that?
And before anyone says that he might not be looking at the site. That wouldn't be true because I have been told that most of the directors look at this site quite often.

Hi
Because I’ve been working. Just got in after an evening meeting with a client.
The best way to be certain of getting hold of me is by email - kevin@kevinwardmedia.com - I’m not on here regularly I’m afraid.
I’ve not been dealing directly with the Bar Amber issue so I don’t know the detail around it, but I’ll check for you and get back to you.
It won’t be until after the weekend though as I’m away for a couple of days celebrating my partner’s birthday. Cheers.

Hi Kevin,
I will reply to you but I'm a bit busy at the moment. So speak to you later.

Alan G Bryant wrote:It is not a great post , it is another post from someone that simply does not grasp the concept of owning a football club. The club have not forced the rewards and benefits because they have not needed to, the windfalls and cup monies have ensured that, so why ask supporters for money that is not needed yet, could you imagine the outcry? All they are highlighting is that without these windfalls we will need to cough up to compete in league 2 or look at other viable options.

To put it another way, If you own a car, you have to find the money for the repairs, the same with the house you own, so why should we expect to own a football club for £10 yet complain when we have to pay for the repairs? It is our responsibility to find the money as we currently own the football club.

We can argue all day about the why's and wherefores of directors making this decision or that decision, but we need to remember that in 3 years we have not been asked to pay for any repairs, I cannot think of many other league 2 club owners that can say the same.

I'm pretty sure that this is quite possibly the most uninformed post I think I have ever read on this board - and there have been numerous before this one by a plethora of posters.

The whole point of the fundraising or covering "the gap" between total income and operational costs is not for the now. It is for the future and building a warchest for whatever bemoans the club over the next few years. What if we don't sell a player, what if we get knocked out of the Cup in the first round away to Bury? We have been blessed over the past couple of years with the sales (and on-sales) of a couple of players and a decent cup run. This has papered over the cracks for now. It is not how you run a football club and one that is as temperamental as ours.

We have to get it through our heads that the Trust need to come up with around 300K a season to make sure we dont go out of existence. Yes, we are ok for now, but that's it - for now. Not for 3 years time.

What did we say in 1989? "Football with a Future" - well it's bloody time we have a decent plan in place to secure that future.

Remember - we have little or zero assets. We only rent a ground to play on. We have a few players that may become assets in the future - "MAY" - there are no guarantees. We need that warchest and we have to start building it now, before it's far too late!

Beefy

Why are we all fightig each other?

If we put as much effort into helping the club instead of insulting fellow supporters and asking busy people to be on our beck and call we'd be in a far better situation.

To me it seems that some people on the board are Charlatans and don't really give a fudge about our club but just want to see how far they can push people. You know who you are and you're not edgy, clever or impressive.

Willthiswork wrote: Some were/are horrified that matchday programs may go.

Unless there has been a very recent change of plan, there will still be a programme next season even though it's no longer obligatory.