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Martin Allen

Postby Cornish Exile » May 11th, 2018, 8:13 pm

Has left Barnet after 8 weeks in charge despite being offered a "superb contract and an increased playing budget".
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby rncfc » May 11th, 2018, 9:18 pm

Got something more appealing lined up I imagine. One of the better “journeyman” managers on the circuit.
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby Corpaboy » May 11th, 2018, 10:05 pm

Football Managers are like Agency Staff these days !
He may have his faults , and is still learning the trade as he goes along . But I'd still rather Flynny in charge for the next few seasons at least .
Local boy who loves the Club .
Stability is the secret of success imho .

All these managers that get sacked every few months are part of the reason why so many lower league sides struggle financially .
They all moan about reduced playing budgets etc , but will take all they can when they fail .
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby Mr Figo » May 12th, 2018, 9:32 am

Corpaboy wrote:Football Managers are like Agency Staff these days !
He may have his faults , and is still learning the trade as he goes along . But I'd still rather Flynny in charge for the next few seasons at least .
Local boy who loves the Club .
Stability is the secret of success imho .

All these managers that get sacked every few months are part of the reason why so many lower league sides struggle financially .
They all moan about reduced playing budgets etc , but will take all they can when they fail .


Not sure Allen falls into that bracket - he was only contracted to the end of the season so no financial loss to Barnet. Barnet's fault for employing Westley though - that was their undoing.
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby Stan A. Einstein » May 12th, 2018, 1:35 pm

Mr Figo wrote:
Corpaboy wrote:Football Managers are like Agency Staff these days !
He may have his faults , and is still learning the trade as he goes along . But I'd still rather Flynny in charge for the next few seasons at least .
Local boy who loves the Club .
Stability is the secret of success imho .

All these managers that get sacked every few months are part of the reason why so many lower league sides struggle financially .
They all moan about reduced playing budgets etc , but will take all they can when they fail .


Not sure Allen falls into that bracket - he was only contracted to the end of the season so no financial loss to Barnet. Barnet's fault for employing Westley though - that was their undoing.


I think Barnet would have survived had the appointed Westley but had fired him two weeks before they did. :grin:
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby Cornish Exile » May 12th, 2018, 7:17 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote:
Mr Figo wrote:
Corpaboy wrote:Football Managers are like Agency Staff these days !
He may have his faults , and is still learning the trade as he goes along . But I'd still rather Flynny in charge for the next few seasons at least .
Local boy who loves the Club .
Stability is the secret of success imho .

All these managers that get sacked every few months are part of the reason why so many lower league sides struggle financially .
They all moan about reduced playing budgets etc , but will take all they can when they fail .


Not sure Allen falls into that bracket - he was only contracted to the end of the season so no financial loss to Barnet. Barnet's fault for employing Westley though - that was their undoing.


I think Barnet would have survived had the appointed Westley but had fired him two weeks before they did. :grin:


Barnet would certainly have survived if Coventry and Morecombe hadn't conveniently managed a goalless draw on the last day of the season.
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby lowandhard » May 12th, 2018, 7:21 pm

How true that is , although the match stats indicated that Coventry did try for the win. I wasn’t there so couldn’t comment on the relative performances of the teams, has anyone seen the game or a report of it?
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Postby Exile 1976 » May 12th, 2018, 7:47 pm

My mate's a Coventry ST holder and he said they didn't seem to try too hard to win the game.
I watched some highlights on Sky and it looked like, and the commentators said it too, a draw was what both teams decided on.
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby Stan A. Einstein » May 12th, 2018, 7:54 pm

Exile 1976 wrote:My mate's a Coventry ST holder and he said they didn't seem to try too hard to win the game.
I watched some highlights on Sky and it looked like, and the commentators said it too, a draw was what both teams decided on.


I remember watching a World Cup game Ireland v The Netherlands. Great game for an hour. Then the news came through that England had scored against Egypt. Which meant both Holland and Ireland would qualify for the knockout stages.

Frankly had the Dutch and the Irish shaken hands and walked off after 60 minutes at least it would have been honest cheating. Austria and Germany screwing over the Saudis I can also remember.

Not fair but I don't have the first clue how to stop it.
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby Exile 1976 » May 12th, 2018, 7:58 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote:
Exile 1976 wrote:My mate's a Coventry ST holder and he said they didn't seem to try too hard to win the game.
I watched some highlights on Sky and it looked like, and the commentators said it too, a draw was what both teams decided on.


I remember watching a World Cup game Ireland v The Netherlands. Great game for an hour. Then the news came through that England had scored against Egypt. Which meant both Holland and Ireland would qualify for the knockout stages.

Frankly had the Dutch and the Irish shaken hands and walked off after 60 minutes at least it would have been honest cheating. Austria and Germany screwing over the Saudis I can also remember.

Not fair but I don't have the first clue how to stop it.



I agree, though I don't think it's ever going to stop hey.
Happened the week before too, Yeovil and FGR both needed a point to stay up and a bore draw point was what they got.
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby George Street-Bridge » May 13th, 2018, 8:21 am

There was also a notorious draw between Austria and West Germany, but I can't remember the context.

In May 1978 I went to Ninian Park for Cardiff v Orient, back before all clubs had to finish their games on the same day. Orient needed a win to stay in the old D2 and relegate Blackpool and duly won 1-0. City rolled over for them. It was decades before Blackpool got back to that level. City were managed by the late Jimmy Andrews and there were chants of "Jim'll fix it".

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Re: Martin Allen

Postby Bush » May 14th, 2018, 12:52 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote:
Exile 1976 wrote:My mate's a Coventry ST holder and he said they didn't seem to try too hard to win the game.
I watched some highlights on Sky and it looked like, and the commentators said it too, a draw was what both teams decided on.


I remember watching a World Cup game Ireland v The Netherlands. Great game for an hour. Then the news came through that England had scored against Egypt. Which meant both Holland and Ireland would qualify for the knockout stages.

Frankly had the Dutch and the Irish shaken hands and walked off after 60 minutes at least it would have been honest cheating. Austria and Germany screwing over the Saudis I can also remember.

Not fair but I don't have the first clue how to stop it.


Its not cheating though. Both teams will sit back which means the game fizzles out. You will see games like this up and down the country all season but people only kick off when it happens at the end of the season. If teams go down on the last game of the season its because they deserved to go down not because what happened in another game.
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby Brownyboy » May 14th, 2018, 5:14 pm

He’s gone to Chesterfield!!
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby rncfc » May 14th, 2018, 8:27 pm

Good appointment for them I’d say. Wonder whether his player links stretch that far north mind.
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Re: Martin Allen

Postby Corpaboy » May 14th, 2018, 10:11 pm

Like I said ..... agency workers !
He'll be there for a couple of months until Barnet have him back

I've never known an industry that pays such good wages for people who continually fail ?

Apart from politics of course !
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