newgroundrodney wrote:What we needed was for the fans of the club to step up to the plate financially. What we needed is what I said all along, "1500 fans donating £30 a month"... trouble is, it was not focused on at the TIME. There was too much emphasis on the buying of shares, and not enough emphasis on the monthly donation ongoing. Many thought, and still do, that joining The Trust for a tenner is doing their bit. Joining the Trust gets you your right to vote & attend certain meetings, that's it. What ELSE will you do for the club? In a time when simply buying tickets and a bit of merchandise is not enough, we need fans who are willing to cough up monthly.
We have an average home fans figure of just over 3100..... now, as I've said before, around half of those will be children, seniors, students, low paid & unemployed, but the other half, the "financially able" half, have not stepped forward.
To paraphrase Chris Blight: "it's easier to ask 1500 people for £30 a month, than to ask one man for £500k"....and he is absolutely right.
For whatever reason, the fans who ARE able, have not been willing......and in a way, why should they, when you think of what we've been told:
... " there'll be much more transparency going forward, and we know we've fallen short on this so far. It will improve".....
... " you'll get more say on a range of issues"
... " there'll be regular meetings"....
...." there'll be regular updates ".....

If we ditch the model, we'll get even less say.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, we need a packaged monthly payment scheme to include Trust Membership, Match Ticket & Benefits & rewards donation. When we have that, perhaps we'll get the money we need monthly.
Those who wish to buy their Season Ticket up front could still do so.

faerun exile wrote:

newgroundrodney wrote:What we needed was for the fans of the club to step up to the plate financially. What we needed is what I said all along, "1500 fans donating £30 a month"... trouble is, it was not focused on at the TIME. There was too much emphasis on the buying of shares, and not enough emphasis on the monthly donation ongoing. Many thought, and still do, that joining The Trust for a tenner is doing their bit. Joining the Trust gets you your right to vote & attend certain meetings, that's it. What ELSE will you do for the club? In a time when simply buying tickets and a bit of merchandise is not enough, we need fans who are willing to cough up monthly.
We have an average home fans figure of just over 3100..... now, as I've said before, around half of those will be children, seniors, students, low paid & unemployed, but the other half, the "financially able" half, have not stepped forward.
To paraphrase Chris Blight: "it's easier to ask 1500 people for £30 a month, than to ask one man for £500k"....and he is absolutely right.
For whatever reason, the fans who ARE able, have not been willing......and in a way, why should they, when you think of what we've been told:
... " there'll be much more transparency going forward, and we know we've fallen short on this so far. It will improve".....
... " you'll get more say on a range of issues"
... " there'll be regular meetings"....
...." there'll be regular updates ".....

If we ditch the model, we'll get even less say.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, we need a packaged monthly payment scheme to include Trust Membership, Match Ticket & Benefits & rewards donation. When we have that, perhaps we'll get the money we need monthly.
Those who wish to buy their Season Ticket up front could still do so.

We all know what is needed and that’s to contribute more to the club. It’s not rocket science. However, statements like “stepping up to the plate” are rather crude. Fact is though watching a Division 4 club is expensive enough as it is. I think you are dreaming if you think fans in Newport can pay another £30 per month on top, plus many already contribute to the lottery and sub draw.
For me the above applies regardless of who / how the club is run.

Alan G Bryant wrote:

SJG99 wrote: Five thousand people donating £10 a month when the football club attracts about 2000 fewer than that to actually watch them provide something in return for their money? Not going to happen.

Yes, but why should it not happen?

We had over 6,000 against Wrexham, 13,000 against York and could have sold Tottenham out twice over. If it was just £9 a month minimum for example, it is not unachievable.

faerun exile wrote:
We all know what is needed and that’s to contribute more to the club. It’s not rocket science. However, statements like “stepping up to the plate” are rather crude. Fact is though watching a Division 4 club is expensive enough as it is. I think you are dreaming if you think fans in Newport can pay another £30 per month on top, plus many already contribute to the lottery and sub draw.
For me the above applies regardless of who / how the club is run.

Bush wrote:People will always turn up for the big games but it aint to watch the county. For anyone who has watched us during the farmers leagues then league 2 seems like the big time but in reality if you don't watch county and just watch the premier league then its an eye opener watching league two football because its crap. The amount of people ive brought over to watch games and they laugh at the standard.

End of the day a club with 1400 trust members shouldn't be owning and running a football league club. We would have a great time 3 divisions below but league two is not sustainable.

Id love to actually see the numbers of who pays monthly to the benefit and reward scheme out of the 1400 trust members. who I wonder how many of them have paid a tenner for the year just incase we get a big cup tie.

Bush wrote:People will always turn up for the big games but it aint to watch the county. For anyone who has watched us during the farmers leagues then league 2 seems like the big time but in reality if you don't watch county and just watch the premier league then its an eye opener watching league two football because its crap. The amount of people ive brought over to watch games and they laugh at the standard.

End of the day a club with 1400 trust members shouldn't be owning and running a football league club. We would have a great time 3 divisions below but league two is not sustainable.

Id love to actually see the numbers of who pays monthly to the benefit and reward scheme out of the 1400 trust members. who I wonder how many of them have paid a tenner for the year just incase we get a big cup tie.

allontheamber wrote:Perfectly valid questions Stan. Do you have any answers?

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

allontheamber wrote:Perfectly valid questions Stan. Do you have any answers?

No more than anyone else.

Five match tickets, choose any games for the price of four. School children free with paying adult. At cost bus running from Ebbw Vale, via Pontypool, Cwmbran, etc. Asking supporters what ideas they have. Trying those ideas to see if they work and not assuming that they won't. Finding those supporters who no longer attend and asking them why.

And I am sure that others will have plenty of suggestions too.

Edit.

Cut out meat, fish and dairy. Cut out oils, yes even olive oil. Eat lots of starch based foods, potatoes, rice, wholemeal bread, etc. As many green veg as you like. Not too much fruit and go easy on nuts. Find exercises you enjoy and you'll be trim in no time.

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

allontheamber wrote:Perfectly valid questions Stan. Do you have any answers?

No more than anyone else.

Five match tickets, choose any games for the price of four. School children free with paying adult. At cost bus running from Ebbw Vale, via Pontypool, Cwmbran, etc. Asking supporters what ideas they have. Trying those ideas to see if they work and not assuming that they won't. Finding those supporters who no longer attend and asking them why.

And I am sure that others will have plenty of suggestions too.

Edit.

Cut out meat, fish and dairy. Cut out oils, yes even olive oil. Eat lots of starch based foods, potatoes, rice, wholemeal bread, etc. As many green veg as you like. Not too much fruit and go easy on nuts. Find exercises you enjoy and you'll be trim in no time.

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

allontheamber wrote:Perfectly valid questions Stan. Do you have any answers?

No more than anyone else.

Five match tickets, choose any games for the price of four. School children free with paying adult. At cost bus running from Ebbw Vale, via Pontypool, Cwmbran, etc. Asking supporters what ideas they have. Trying those ideas to see if they work and not assuming that they won't. Finding those supporters who no longer attend and asking them why.

And I am sure that others will have plenty of suggestions too.

Edit.

Cut out meat, fish and dairy. Cut out oils, yes even olive oil. Eat lots of starch based foods, potatoes, rice, wholemeal bread, etc. As many green veg as you like. Not too much fruit and go easy on nuts. Find exercises you enjoy and you'll be trim in no time.