Every argument for not wanting promotion because we are not ready was used in exactly the same way six years ago about promotion to League Two. It was bollox then and it's bollox now.

However I think it would be best to enjoy the football until Christmas and then have a look where we are.

Nobody wins the league in September, I would be happy with a higher position than last season, if we did achieve the playoffs I'd be ecstatic.
Chris

I think we could go into November top of the league but our small squad will be tested over the winter months. We also will have a number of teams sniffing around MF.

If we can get to the play offs that would be brilliant. I don’t think we can afford to play in league one as we don’t have the trust following, commercial revenue or income streams from our own stadium to compete.

Wait till we win 135 million tomorrow!

Cornish Exile wrote:

OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote:Totally different era of course in the 30's with no television. Were we not getting crowds of 10, 000 in those times which presumably would have been enough to finance the club?

Agreed, however it only cost 5p to get in and 10,000 attendance was often quoted as a break - even figure.

It wasn't only 5p ...it was a shilling.
In 1938 a shilling would pay for an evening's supper for a family of 10 from one of those new 'chip shops'...so around about £25-£30 in today's money, and not dissimilar to the price of a current match ticket broadly speaking.
Football isn't really any much less affordable than its ever been.

Remember 83 season we threw it away them think losing 8 of the last 9. Just hope we don't do that again???????

My prediction is that this season will follow a pretty similar pattern to last, minus the cup run (they are one in a 20odd year, type of run?). We will finish, IMO, just below half way, well safe, which I would have taken before a ball was kicked tbh.
I don’t think our squad is large enough to sustain our run.

OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote:

rncfc wrote:I really don't get the whole "we can't afford to get promoted" rubbish.

As a fan owned club, if it were by some miracle to happen, it's very simple.

"Listen guys, we're playing above our station. We won't risk the clubs future so the budget is the budget. We should finish bottom but with your help we might just be able to pull off a miracle. Come and help us achieve the impossible".

Job done.

If as you put it 'by some miracle it happens' then of course the 'we can't afford to get promoted' hypothesis will be irrelevent, and we will have to do our best wihin the budget we have. I'm sure i read somewhere recently that Accrington haven't increased their budget beyond £1 point something million. They seem to be doing OK.

Yes, £1.1m I think I saw.

It's worth bearing in mind that promotion brings more money in from the league "handouts".

In 2017 payments to FL1 and FL2 clubs were split into two components: a basic award and a Premier League "solidarity" payment.

L1 was £677,000 (basic) + 645,000 (solidarity) = 1,320,000
L2 was £472,000 + 430,000 = 902,000

So promotion then was worth an extra £400k or so.

I think it's broadly similar for 2018. So how that increased income squares with Stanley's playing budget staying the same I can't fathom. Perhaps it'll pay back some of his loans.

I read somewhere recently that the average cost of running a league two side was just over a million whilst the average for league one was 3.5 million

newgroundrodney wrote:

Cornish Exile wrote:

OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote:Totally different era of course in the 30's with no television. Were we not getting crowds of 10, 000 in those times which presumably would have been enough to finance the club?

Agreed, however it only cost 5p to get in and 10,000 attendance was often quoted as a break - even figure.

It wasn't only 5p ...it was a shilling.
In 1938 a shilling would pay for an evening's supper for a family of 10 from one of those new 'chip shops'...so around about £25-£30 in today's money, and not dissimilar to the price of a current match ticket broadly speaking.
Football isn't really any much less affordable than its ever been.

Thank you, I'm fully aware that 5p equals one shilling, however, there may be some younger fans who aren't.

Try not to be so patronising.

Firstly I would be happy with four points from the next two home games. I feel a little nervous about home matches at present.This ' promotion v Consolidation' debate is exactly what Jason Perry and Nathan Blake were discussing on ' Call Rob' after the Oldham match. Promotion is a long way off and January will be a 'telling month'. However, promotion should not be shunned. We do need benefactors and our own ground but to achieve promotion which is what MF wants shoulld be our main goal. That should attract larger crowds and greater interest in 'apathetic Newport '. But we must be shrewd and not do a Waddle or Johnson' (1983).

Cornish Exile wrote:

newgroundrodney wrote:

Cornish Exile wrote:
Thank you, I'm fully aware that 5p equals one shilling, however, there may be some younger fans who aren't.

Try not to be so patronising.

In 1938 a shilling would buy two and a half litres of fuel. Today you're paying £4.

5p is notionally a shilling but not really. By the way back then a nice new Semi in Bassaleg would set you back less than £600.

Yes , these indices are confusing, you could only post 12 letters with that shilling , I bet. Thank goodness for emails eh?