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2Well he’s certainly eased in the betting, if that means anything. Ricketts is still favourite despite being rumoured to be uninterested: the Wrexham board issued a similar statement to ours but they had the good grace to leave out “ formal “. Nolan coming up on the rails.
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3I note he has come in a point 9/2 from 11/2.lowandhard wrote:Well he’s certainly eased in the betting.
My view remains, although I am far from certain, is as follows. Whichever manager loses Saturday's Cup tie will be offered the job. Nolan is the back up. If he (Flynn) is offered the job, I think it's 50/50 as to whether he'd take it. My concern is not that he will leave but that if he remains then every time a League side sacks it's manager we will have to endure this palaver over and over again.
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4But then what happens if it's a draw (my guess) with a replay still 10 days away and Shrewsbury just marking time?
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5If the caretaker boss continues to win matches, I guess they can afford to wait.
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6All jokes aside, Shrewsbury are on track to avoid relegation by 16 pts, so they don't NEED an unfinished manager, one who is still learning. What they need is a manager who can take them on to bigger things next season. That manager is not Mike Flynn. He still has much to learn, but that kind of move and bigger, will happen for him soon, when he has actually achieved something of note at Newport. He's not quite there yet. He has done well, but needs to build his reputation solidly first.
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7As will Wrexham or any team that is performing well. It begs the question that if you have transfer windows for players , then why not for managers.Stan A. Einstein wrote:I note he has come in a point 9/2 from 11/2.lowandhard wrote:Well he’s certainly eased in the betting.
My view remains, although I am far from certain, is as follows. Whichever manager loses Saturday's Cup tie will be offered the job. Nolan is the back up. If he (Flynn) is offered the job, I think it's 50/50 as to whether he'd take it. My concern is not that he will leave but that if he remains then every time a League side sacks it's manager we will have to endure this palaver over and over again.
There is something not right in the supposedly bigger clubs 'tapping up' managers 1/3 of the way through the season. It looks like the speculation has also derailed Wrexham.
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8Shrewsbury say according to the article that they are in no hurry to appoint. Which fits with my scenario. However I stress that my theory is whilst plausible, far from being the only explanation.George Street-Bridge wrote:But then what happens if it's a draw (my guess) with a replay still 10 days away and Shrewsbury just marking time?
It may be that Flynn was not considered, it may be Flynn was never interested. It may be one party or the other was interested and subsequently lost interest. All I am saying is that if Shrewsbury were to appoint the losing manager from Saturday's tie, I wouldn't be overcome with surprise.
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9But Shrewsbury, population 74,000, shouldn't be a bigger club than Newport, population 145,000. I just don't see why you don't get that point.Alan G Bryant wrote:As will Wrexham or any team that is performing well. It begs the question that if you have transfer windows for players , then why not for managers.Stan A. Einstein wrote:I note he has come in a point 9/2 from 11/2.lowandhard wrote:Well he’s certainly eased in the betting.
My view remains, although I am far from certain, is as follows. Whichever manager loses Saturday's Cup tie will be offered the job. Nolan is the back up. If he (Flynn) is offered the job, I think it's 50/50 as to whether he'd take it. My concern is not that he will leave but that if he remains then every time a League side sacks it's manager we will have to endure this palaver over and over again.
Your second point of transfer windows for managers is not viable either. Under employment law you can't enforce a transfer window. All clubs can sign who they like when they like. The only power the Leagues have is they can prevent those players playing in matches. It would be impossible to stop managers managing. At a push I suppose you could keep managers out of the technical area but in an age of mobile phones I don't see that really working.
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10Bit harsh to suggest that Shrewsbury were tapping up other managers. Their manager leaves, so the whole world knows that they will sooner or later appoint another. Then the betting community takes over and pretty soon the football forums. The feeding frenzy takes on a life of its own. Shrewsbury Town meanwhile get on with their business.Alan G Bryant wrote:As will Wrexham or any team that is performing well. It begs the question that if you have transfer windows for players , then why not for managers.Stan A. Einstein wrote:I note he has come in a point 9/2 from 11/2.lowandhard wrote:Well he’s certainly eased in the betting.
My view remains, although I am far from certain, is as follows. Whichever manager loses Saturday's Cup tie will be offered the job. Nolan is the back up. If he (Flynn) is offered the job, I think it's 50/50 as to whether he'd take it. My concern is not that he will leave but that if he remains then every time a League side sacks it's manager we will have to endure this palaver over and over again.
There is something not right in the supposedly bigger clubs 'tapping up' managers 1/3 of the way through the season. It looks like the speculation has also derailed Wrexham.
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11The trouble is managers would then demand that they could only be sacked at a transfer window. Imagine if we had had to wait until the next window to sack Butcher or Feeney or WestleyAlan G Bryant wrote: It begs the question that if you have transfer windows for players , then why not for managers.
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12That is an extremely good point, discrete from mine, which had not occurred to me.Barnabas wrote:The trouble is managers would then demand that they could only be sacked at a transfer window. Imagine if we had had to wait until the next window to sack Butcher or Feeney or WestleyAlan G Bryant wrote: It begs the question that if you have transfer windows for players , then why not for managers.
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13You may well be right with your last point Brendan. However, I would be a tad more concerned if Wigan, Bradford, Gillingham or Blackpool came sniffing. I hope none of those sides have a prolonged lean spell.Stan A. Einstein wrote:I note he has come in a point 9/2 from 11/2.lowandhard wrote:Well he’s certainly eased in the betting.
My view remains, although I am far from certain, is as follows. Whichever manager loses Saturday's Cup tie will be offered the job. Nolan is the back up. If he (Flynn) is offered the job, I think it's 50/50 as to whether he'd take it. My concern is not that he will leave but that if he remains then every time a League side sacks it's manager we will have to endure this palaver over and over again.
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14Barnabas wrote:The trouble is managers would then demand that they could only be sacked at a transfer window. Imagine if we had had to wait until the next window to sack Butcher or Feeney or WestleyAlan G Bryant wrote: It begs the question that if you have transfer windows for players , then why not for managers.
There are plenty of managers that have also benefitted from being given sufficient time. Alex Ferguson, Martin O'Neill at Leicester to name two.
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15Hi Mike,pembsexile wrote:You may well be right with your last point Brendan. However, I would be a tad more concerned if Wigan, Bradford, Gillingham or Blackpool came sniffing. I hope none of those sides have a prolonged lean spell.Stan A. Einstein wrote:I note he has come in a point 9/2 from 11/2.lowandhard wrote:Well he’s certainly eased in the betting.
My view remains, although I am far from certain, is as follows. Whichever manager loses Saturday's Cup tie will be offered the job. Nolan is the back up. If he (Flynn) is offered the job, I think it's 50/50 as to whether he'd take it. My concern is not that he will leave but that if he remains then every time a League side sacks it's manager we will have to endure this palaver over and over again.
I think our problem is that we should only expect to be out muscled by really big clubs. I can recall County teams playing and beating all the clubs you name. I see no reason why my club and my home town can't complete with the clubs you mention.
As it is we have failed to resist Gillingham, Oldham and Aldershot in the last decade.
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