Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

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Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby rncfc » February 26th, 2019, 9:54 am

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Re: Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby UPTHEPORT » February 26th, 2019, 10:02 am

Very sad looks like the locals are not getting behind them
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Re: Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby George Street-Bridge » February 26th, 2019, 10:08 am

Went up there once when we played a friendly, have to say I expected a bigger "feel" to the place. It was very like the Midland Division.
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Postby Amberexile » February 26th, 2019, 10:15 am

There but for the grace of Les Scadding et al go us.
I wish them luck whatever path they choose
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Re: Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby newgroundrodney » February 26th, 2019, 10:35 am

£100k a year seems such a small amount but then I suppose their gates are low. Whether they'd be ripe for a SD fan owned scenario I don't know. It's hard to get fans to pump money in, month after month, at any level, but you'd like to think 200 fans could raise enough with the business community chipping in too.
Maybe they'll prosper under the new set up if allowed back in. Still disappointing to lose them though, and I do consider it a loss.
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Re: Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby G Guest » February 26th, 2019, 4:11 pm

Presumably the purpose of joining the Welsh pyramid would be to lower the standard they are playing by joining a local league with lower travelling costs and lower or no wages for players.

They were formed in 1881. So are not only one of the oldest clubs in Wales but in the whole world I would think.
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Re: Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby G Guest » February 26th, 2019, 4:32 pm

It's a one way street, of course, no going back to English football.
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Postby Stan A. Einstein » February 26th, 2019, 4:44 pm

I don't really see it as sad. The truth is that to support football on a national stage you really need a large catchment. Cardiff, Swansea and Newport are big enough, Colwyn Bay isn't.

If you look at similar sized towns they have teams playing regional football. The Welsh League is not dissimilar to other leagues in England at tiers 6 to 9.

The problem that the Welsh League has is that there is no hope of progression. The mistake the late Mr Evans made was not in forming a National League but trying to force clubs to join. Newport, Cardiff, Swansea, Merthyr and Wrexham won't. I suspect every other Welsh club will. And had they not been forced would have done so a quarter of a century ago.
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Re: Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby DT1892 » February 26th, 2019, 6:59 pm

Hopefully they'll swap with TNS.

Don't think it's too sad though, it's an opportunity for them. Domestic football isn't as basic as it once was, particularly with the pyramid changes begin brought in over the next couple of seasons, there's the possibility of European football and the money from that - which has helped Connah's Quay turn professional. Depends on where they would be placed, I'd have them in the new Northern second tier if it was up to me, but after the FAW's treatment of Barry they could be anywhere.

Only have to look at what Caernarfon have done. Developed a team of local lads and are now regularly pulling in crowds of over 1000.
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Re: Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby rdh2210 » February 27th, 2019, 10:35 am

"They were part of the dubbed ‘Irrate Eight’ of Welsh clubs who had played their club football in England and wanted to remain".

Newport, Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham, Merthyr, Colwyn Bay.... my mind has gone blank - Who are the other two I'm missing?
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Postby George Street-Bridge » February 27th, 2019, 10:39 am

Bangor and Newtown.
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Postby rncfc » February 27th, 2019, 10:50 am

Don't think that list is accurate, Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham were not part of the eight.

Pretty sure the eight teams were Bangor, Rhyl, Barry, Caernarfon, Colwyn Bay, Merthyr, Newtown and us. Merthyr were quickly given an exemption and allowed to carry on as they were and everyone except us, Caernafon and Colwyn Bay folded like a pack of cards. Although Barry held out for one season playing home games in Worcester.
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Re: Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby George Street-Bridge » February 27th, 2019, 10:55 am

Yes, you're right. Rhyl changed their minds too late and had to win promotion from the northern feeder league.
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Postby rdh2210 » February 27th, 2019, 10:58 am

Ahh Yes - Thanks both! :-)
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Re: Colwyn Bay - really sad news if true

Postby papajohn » February 27th, 2019, 9:48 pm

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