newgroundrodney wrote:I'm not sure what 1500 figure you're on about, but we are where we are. I guess the upshot is we'll lose several hundred members who probably feel that an increase to £60 just to secure the right to buy big match tickets is not worth it.
For me, £10 on the old style should NEVER have given ticket priority, it simply was not enough to warrant it. In my view, £10 should have secured VOTING RIGHTS ONLY and for those who want only that, £10 a year should still be available as an absolute minimum entry level, BUT NO TICKET PRIORITY....that should go to those who are either ST holders, monthly donators or both.
My belief is that from next season, a basic £10 trust membership should be re-introduced for those who simply want no frills, no priority Trust membership. Otherwise, around 10-15% of an average home gate will be excluded from any Trust involvement at all, which would be a shame, and surely not what we want as a supporter funded club.

pembsexile wrote:

newgroundrodney wrote:I'm not sure what 1500 figure you're on about, but we are where we are. I guess the upshot is we'll lose several hundred members who probably feel that an increase to £60 just to secure the right to buy big match tickets is not worth it.
For me, £10 on the old style should NEVER have given ticket priority, it simply was not enough to warrant it. In my view, £10 should have secured VOTING RIGHTS ONLY and for those who want only that, £10 a year should still be available as an absolute minimum entry level, BUT NO TICKET PRIORITY....that should go to those who are either ST holders, monthly donators or both.
My belief is that from next season, a basic £10 trust membership should be re-introduced for those who simply want no frills, no priority Trust membership. Otherwise, around 10-15% of an average home gate will be excluded from any Trust involvement at all, which would be a shame, and surely not what we want as a supporter funded club.

You do have a relevant point I suppose with regards to the £10 membership not having access to ticket priority. I see where you are coming from. You obviously feel strongly enough about it that you wrote your view about ticket priority in capital letters. Strong views indeed.

However, whilst in principle, the £10 gave you ticket priority, in practice, for me, it was almost useless in some circumstances. I gave up trying to get tickets via phone for the Man City game as I couldn't get through. Price you pay as an exile I suppose. There, that's my view on the apparent £10 TICKET PRIORITY.

newgroundrodney wrote:If 1500 fans joined or upgraded to the GOLD level, over a year we'd probably take enough money to start the following season on an even keel financially. Sort of soaking up the losses.

SJG99 wrote:

newgroundrodney wrote:If 1500 fans joined or upgraded to the GOLD level, over a year we'd probably take enough money to start the following season on an even keel financially. Sort of soaking up the losses.

Seems unlikely we've got 1500 fans who would be able to/want to do that or they probably already would.

SJG99 wrote:

newgroundrodney wrote:If 1500 fans joined or upgraded to the GOLD level, over a year we'd probably take enough money to start the following season on an even keel financially. Sort of soaking up the losses.

Seems unlikely we've got 1500 fans who would be able to/want to do that or they probably already would.

newgroundrodney wrote:

SJG99 wrote:

newgroundrodney wrote:If 1500 fans joined or upgraded to the GOLD level, over a year we'd probably take enough money to start the following season on an even keel financially. Sort of soaking up the losses.

Seems unlikely we've got 1500 fans who would be able to/want to do that or they probably already would.

Yeah, I agree you're probably right. Shame though, cos one of the things we can do as fans is soak up the losses. That's kind of what I thought we were entering into, though the need for ONGOING donations, was not stressed heavily enough at the time as I recall. I guess the emphasis was on securing Community Share sales in the first instance.
I'd love to think we could start a year (or end a year - whichever way they calculate it) with a £1 profit, with the losses having been met collectively by the fans. Hopefully soon we'll be running at a profit.
I don't understand the accountancy angle of it all, and I'm sure many fans don't. What I really do not understand, is how in one breath we're told we're running at a loss, and in the next breath we're told, "we turned down an offer of £225,000 (?) for the club, because the offer was for less money than we currently had in the bank"....

Alan G Bryant wrote:Why would the board even consider selling the club for less than what we Paid for it when we are in such a much better position.
To put that to vote would have been a complete waste of time.

newgroundrodney wrote:No I wouldn't have sold it... I would hope that would always be decided by vote of members, not any one person.

Fourthousand wrote:

newgroundrodney wrote:No I wouldn't have sold it... I would hope that would always be decided by vote of members, not any one person.

OK then would you have considered it as an appropriate offer to go through the whole process of taking it to a vote of shareholders.?

newgroundrodney wrote:

Alan G Bryant wrote:Why would the board even consider selling the club for less than what we Paid for it when we are in such a much better position.
To put that to vote would have been a complete waste of time.

I'm not saying in that particular instance it should have been put to the vote. The point I was actually making, is how are we skint and running at a loss one minute, and got all this money in the bank the next?
To be clear, I did say I do NOT UNDERSTAND the accountancy aspects of it, but it seems like conflicting information.
As I said, what I would like to see, is enough money being contributed via donations to 'soak up the losses'....
It would be nice to think we could get to that position one day.

Alan G Bryant wrote:

SJG99 wrote:

newgroundrodney wrote:If 1500 fans joined or upgraded to the GOLD level, over a year we'd probably take enough money to start the following season on an even keel financially. Sort of soaking up the losses.

Seems unlikely we've got 1500 fans who would be able to/want to do that or they probably already would.

I am not so sure , I think the problem is that because of our cup runs , many supporters feel that the club are not desperate for the money. If the money was desperately needed and a target was set , my view is the owners would reach that target.