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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby Exile 1976 » November 7th, 2019, 5:18 pm

DT1892 wrote:The jump from youth football to Football League level is bigger than it's ever been. How many clubs at this level have youth players in their first XI regularly? If any of them are as good as some of the first team, I don't see a reason why Flynn wouldn't give them a chance.

Collins has got some time on the pitch and done alright, but aside from that I can't see how anyone can know the 'potential' of any of our lads unless they watch them every week. I saw Jeffries against West Ham and thought he had a good game, but it was against another academy team. Playing against the likes of Salford, Forest Green or Bradford is a completely different challenge.



Unless he’s given the chance we’ll never know.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby DT1892 » November 7th, 2019, 6:46 pm

He's got to be ready to be given a chance, it seems that Flynn thinks he's not at the moment.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby Exile 1976 » November 7th, 2019, 7:21 pm

He’s done well in games that he’s played in, give him the chance to step up....in fairness Flynny obviously thinks Maloney is worthy of playing yet he has been unbelievably poor each time he’s played for us.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby Frank Nouble 3 » November 7th, 2019, 7:36 pm

DT1892 wrote:The jump from youth football to Football League level is bigger than it's ever been. How many clubs at this level have youth players in their first XI regularly? If any of them are as good as some of the first team, I don't see a reason why Flynn wouldn't give them a chance.

Collins has got some time on the pitch and done alright, but aside from that I can't see how anyone can know the 'potential' of any of our lads unless they watch them every week. I saw Jeffries against West Ham and thought he had a good game, but it was against another academy team. Playing against the likes of Salford, Forest Green or Bradford is a completely different challenge.

You just shot yourself in the foot.
Jefferies was our MOM against West Ham.
Mahoney played and he was hopeless against "kids" so tell me why Flynny plays a fella who is hopeless or keeps him on the bench and ignores a potential future star.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby DT1892 » November 7th, 2019, 7:48 pm

He's 17. No need to rush him through because we've lost a couple of games. I can't see any reason why Flynn would ignore him if he was good enough. He's given Collins a few games and was bigging him up in the Argus a week or so ago.

I'd be very surprised if Jefferies doesn't get some game time at a level higher than the reserve trophy games this season.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby DT1892 » November 7th, 2019, 7:57 pm

Frank Nouble 3 wrote:
DT1892 wrote:The jump from youth football to Football League level is bigger than it's ever been. How many clubs at this level have youth players in their first XI regularly? If any of them are as good as some of the first team, I don't see a reason why Flynn wouldn't give them a chance.

Collins has got some time on the pitch and done alright, but aside from that I can't see how anyone can know the 'potential' of any of our lads unless they watch them every week. I saw Jeffries against West Ham and thought he had a good game, but it was against another academy team. Playing against the likes of Salford, Forest Green or Bradford is a completely different challenge.

You just shot yourself in the foot.
Jefferies was our MOM against West Ham.
Mahoney played and he was hopeless against "kids" so tell me why Flynny plays a fella who is hopeless or keeps him on the bench and ignores a potential future star.


Have I? I don't rate Mahoney. I don't think he's good enough, I'd rather Jefferies play ahead of him, but only if he's ready.

And while Jefferies played well, we let a 3 goal lead slip and lost 5-4 to another youth team. There weren't many options for MOM.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby Frank Nouble 3 » November 7th, 2019, 8:03 pm

Sorry but we actually let a 4 goal slip.
The truth is all the youngsters played well that night.
The seniors were all rubbish.
Dolan, Mahoney, the fella from Rovers, even Inniss was not much cop and clearly peckish.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby DT1892 » November 7th, 2019, 8:11 pm

4-1 up weren't we? Even worse if it was a four goal lead.

Dolan went off at 4-1 and we lost 5-4. Nobody was great in that 45.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby Frank Nouble 3 » November 7th, 2019, 8:24 pm

DT1892 wrote:4-1 up weren't we? Even worse if it was a four goal lead.

Dolan went off at 4-1 and we lost 5-4. Nobody was great in that 45.

Nope 4-0 up at half time.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby DT1892 » November 7th, 2019, 8:48 pm

Interesting considering they scored the first goal of the game.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby Exile 1976 » November 7th, 2019, 9:22 pm

Frank Nouble 3 wrote:
DT1892 wrote:4-1 up weren't we? Even worse if it was a four goal lead.

Dolan went off at 4-1 and we lost 5-4. Nobody was great in that 45.

Nope 4-0 up at half time.



Eh? We went 1 nil down after a minute didn’t we??
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby Frank Nouble 3 » November 7th, 2019, 10:06 pm

Could of sworn we were 4-0 up.

Never mind double dose of medication at bed time tonight.
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Re: Mike give the youth a chance

Postby wattsville_boy » November 9th, 2019, 12:09 pm

I have been arguing about the lack of opportunities for youth under Flynn for a couple of years already. But the problem does go a bit deeper than that - I don't think he gives sufficient opportunities to some members of his first team squad. I find myself looking at the bench and predicting whom amongst them will figure in the game. It's only when an injury occurs that my predictions are sometimes incorrect.

We might be 7th in the division but we continue to be fairly predictable in personnel, formation and how our goals are created. And if players feel they aren't given a chance then they leave. If Academy players aren't given a chance they leave. A thriving Academy is the lifeblood of a club at this level. Ignoring the Academy could turn out to a costly mistake for County.
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