Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby lowandhard » November 30th, 2019, 12:42 am

Let’s be honest about this, that was fairly woeful but don’t forget our history, many County sides in the past have lost to non-leaguers and at least we didn’t do that with a pretty depleted team so I’ll settle for that.

Equally important is the injury situation. My sincere hopes for a speedy and complete recovery for the casualties tonight and I’m worried for Howkins as that was a bad knock, I saw it clearly at the time and consider it a straight red any day of the week, it was late and more a butt than a clash imho.

I wish people wouldn’t pick on Jefferies, he’s a young lad and promising too but I feel we’re playing him out of position, I reckon he’s a midfielder, I’d like to see him there.

By our recent lamentable standards we should have been home and hosed by ht but football-wise we were awful. Something has to change and I don’t think Poleon or Abrahams are the answer, even the worst of us playing up front would be lethal from a yard out ( Abrahams ) and Poleon’s reaction of laughing when his “shot” landed somewhere near Tiptree was doubtful as far as I’m concerned. They were laughing at you mate not with you!

Townsend , the central defenders ,Sheehan and Haynes looked ok , the rest looked out of sorts but delighted that Amond despite not having a good game must be played as it appears he’s the only one who can finish presently. I believe this is because of the game plan, we must get the ball wide and cross from the byline to give the forwards any chance at all of scoring. Whether that means a signing or two I know not because Flynn’s priorities are complicated by needing to strengthen nearly everywhere and on our budget he’ll have only the opportunity to bring in a couple.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby The Ironsiders » November 30th, 2019, 12:48 am

we have a chance of drawing one of the big boys Monday evening for the 3rd year in a row!!!!! Flynny has given us confidence in this competition and helped our finances out time and time again. i understand how annoying the long balls have been and how the last few matches have been hard to watch, but let’s try to enjoy this moment again!!! who would have thought 10 years ago that we would be in the football league, taken part in the 3rd round of the FA Cup 3 seasons in a row, played 2 top premiership matches at home and got to Wembley 4 times??? this shows how far the club has come and how consistent Flynny has been since joining us. i think before we criticise him, we need to remember where we were before he came along and how close we were to losing our club.

up the f*****g county!!!!
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby wattsville_boy » November 30th, 2019, 1:34 am

lowandhard wrote:Let’s be honest about this, that was fairly woeful but don’t forget our history, many County sides in the past have lost to non-leaguers and at least we didn’t do that with a pretty depleted team so I’ll settle for that.

Equally important is the injury situation. My sincere hopes for a speedy and complete recovery for the casualties tonight and I’m worried for Howkins as that was a bad knock, I saw it clearly at the time and consider it a straight red any day of the week, it was late and more a butt than a clash imho.

I wish people wouldn’t pick on Jefferies, he’s a young lad and promising too but I feel we’re playing him out of position, I reckon he’s a midfielder, I’d like to see him there.

By our recent lamentable standards we should have been home and hosed by ht but football-wise we were awful. Something has to change and I don’t think Poleon or Abrahams are the answer, even the worst of us playing up front would be lethal from a yard out ( Abrahams ) and Poleon’s reaction of laughing when his “shot” landed somewhere near Tiptree was doubtful as far as I’m concerned. They were laughing at you mate not with you!

Townsend , the central defenders ,Sheehan and Haynes looked ok , the rest looked out of sorts but delighted that Amond despite not having a good game must be played as it appears he’s the only one who can finish presently. I believe this is because of the game plan, we must get the ball wide and cross from the byline to give the forwards any chance at all of scoring. Whether that means a signing or two I know not because Flynn’s priorities are complicated by needing to strengthen nearly everywhere and on our budget he’ll have only the opportunity to bring in a couple.


I agree with your assessment generally. I quite like Abrahams but I would be giving him 20-30 mins off the bench currently, not starting with him. He has lots of hustle and bustle to his game but he did lose the ball consistently during contact. I think Poleon hasn't been given much of a chance yet, though what I have seen hasn't been impressive. Jefferies probably isn't a defender and it would be interesting to see him as a midfielder (Mickey Mouse Cup perhaps). We do have players that can go to the byeline and cross the ball, but they seem not to. Is this because the Manager has told them to play another way?

I'm finding watching County recently very frustrating. I feel we have a very good side, but for some reason they are playing hoofball. I also feel that players are being played in their wrong positions far too frequently. Football is a fairly simple game, perhaps the Management are over-complicating things and try going back to the basics a bit. Lets start with trying to keep the ball on the deck and passing to each other. Lets see whether the team can play the ball forwards as a first option instead of backwards. Lets play with width and encourage our wide players to run down the tramlines to the byeline and cross from there rather than speculative balls from midfield. Lets pick the players in their natural positions where possible and if that means having to blood a youngster then do it. Lets be bold in how we play football instead of the meek performances served up recently.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby JonD » November 30th, 2019, 6:05 am

Townsend is something else, isn't he? I'm so impressed by the bloke's keeping. Plus he seems able to hit clearances with either foot.

O'Brien - it's unfortunate that, even when he's in the opponent's penalty area his instinct is still to try and put the ball in row Z. He could've settled a few nerves early on.

Sheehan is our most watchable player and does nice little things sometimes, but in this side all that ever leads to is him eventually teeing up someone to boom the ball high and long. If he gets a move in January that'd be awful for the fans.

As for our strike force - bearing in mind Harry Kane would struggle with the service he'd get in County's lineup - I like Matt, I like Amond. I just don't like Matt&Amond. Abrahams reminds me in a way of Matt Green when he was at County. Many years ago a County fan said of Green that "he won't score a goal as long as he's got a hole in his arse". Abrahams has that same aura. He needs coaching, I feel.

The little I've seen of Nurse - besides that RB cameo - has quite impressed me. I'm disappointed we seem unable to accommodate him in the side a bit more than we've done so far.

Heartbreaking stuff to watch Howkins' seizure. Goodness knows what this might mean for the lad. I hope, of course, to see him back out playing one day.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby DeePeeNCAFC » November 30th, 2019, 7:36 am

JonD wrote:Townsend is something else, isn't he? I'm so impressed by the bloke's keeping. Plus he seems able to hit clearances with either foot.

O'Brien - it's unfortunate that, even when he's in the opponent's penalty area his instinct is still to try and put the ball in row Z. He could've settled a few nerves early on.

Sheehan is our most watchable player and does nice little things sometimes, but in this side all that ever leads to is him eventually teeing up someone to boom the ball high and long. If he gets a move in January that'd be awful for the fans.

As for our strike force - bearing in mind Harry Kane would struggle with the service he'd get in County's lineup - I like Matt, I like Amond. I just don't like Matt&Amond. Abrahams reminds me in a way of Matt Green when he was at County. Many years ago a County fan said of Green that "he won't score a goal as long as he's got a hole in his arse". Abrahams has that same aura. He needs coaching, I feel.

The little I've seen of Nurse - besides that RB cameo - has quite impressed me. I'm disappointed we seem unable to accommodate him in the side a bit more than we've done so far.

Heartbreaking stuff to watch Howkins' seizure. Goodness knows what this might mean for the lad. I hope, of course, to see him back out playing one day.


Good evaluation.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby Ironsider » November 30th, 2019, 7:43 am

After watching last night I am of the opinion that we came up again bit of a non league anomaly in Maldon. They are clearly a couple of divisions better than their current standing and play some decent football.

That said I feel we should have been out of sight within the first half hour and as the game grew so did my sense of dread that we were going to be on the wrong end of an upset.

Townsend was superb, I echo the sentiments about how impressive he has been - I think we have two quality keepers at our disposal.

We were wasteful in front of goal, Abrahams will run all day but his finishing is woeful at times. Amond popped up at the right time and scored a great goal - Nurses cross was excellent for that.

All in all I think we dodged a real banana skin last night and am happy we're in the third round again - this could prove to be a pivotal moment in the season for us going forward.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby flat4 » November 30th, 2019, 7:48 am

A W is a Win, but MF and the team should be ashamed of the result.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby George Street-Bridge » November 30th, 2019, 8:35 am

neilcork68 wrote: We had 1 shot on target first half


Demonstrable nonsense. Abrahams had one cleared off the line, keeper saved poor shots from him and Amond and a good one by Dolan.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby allontheamber » November 30th, 2019, 8:46 am

We have avoided the dreaded banana skin and we are in the hat for round 3. We stopped a free scoring team from finding the net so in that respect it was a professional job and well done to the team and management.
However, it's a sad indictment of our ability that if we had tried to play football against an eighth tier team like Maldon we would probably have been hammered.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby excessbee » November 30th, 2019, 8:54 am

We certainly upset the BBC agenda for the evening. We were miles better than them throughout the first half, yet just before half time Martin Keown stated it was difficult to tell who was the league two team. This was shortly followed by their manager saying they were off the pace. The sanitised comments about the assault on Howkins show quite clearly that little ol' T and M were cast as the good guys.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby ROKERITE » November 30th, 2019, 8:55 am

flat4 wrote:A W is a Win, but MF and the team should be ashamed of the result.


The first time I've seen Newport this season and you weren't as bad as I'd been led to believe by the comments on here. If the strikers had had their shooting boots on you'd have been three up by half-time and scored five by the end.
Never mind, as you say a win is a win and there'll be more money in the pot for Mr Flynn to bring in a player or two to take Newport to promotion, I hope.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby George Street-Bridge » November 30th, 2019, 8:56 am

Echo the comments about avoiding a banana skin. We had players badly out of form and/or not fully fit who still got stuck in, then lost two centrebacks.

Also about Maldon not being a typical tier 8 team. I didn't realise their tie-in with Colchester was as close as it is - Colchester are their landlords and they are an outlet for work experience loans. Their chairman was at pains to say they aren't a feeder club because that's against the rules, but it sounds like in layman's terms they are.

The foul on Howkins was shocking. To me it looked like the striker either just closed his eyes, which was plain reckless, or carried on with the header despite the ball being long gone. Straight red either way..
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby George Street-Bridge » November 30th, 2019, 9:02 am

excessbee wrote:We certainly upset the BBC agenda for the evening. We were miles better than them throughout the first half, yet just before half time Martin Keown stated it was difficult to tell who was the league two team. This was shortly followed by their manager saying they were off the pace. The sanitised comments about the assault on Howkins show quite clearly that little ol' T and M were the cast as the good guys.


Keown was also mealy-mouthed about the foul on Townsend in stoppage time, but we've benefited from media coverage as underdogs so fair enough overall.

I don't watch Strictly, but I might now I know Alex Scott is in the last five! :grin:
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby excessbee » November 30th, 2019, 9:09 am

I predicted as soon as she appeared on screen that it would become a promo for 'shtrickly'.
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Re: Grandstand FA Cup Round 2

Postby George Street-Bridge » November 30th, 2019, 9:13 am

Frank Nouble 3 wrote: Regarding Podge name me another player who has scored 8 games on the trot in the cup.
That's worth an 8. That's an eight from me..


Harps how will you cope if he gets to 11?
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