UPTHEPORT wrote:

CasuallyCounty wrote:Who trusts flyn with the transfer kitty?

Me

I admire your optimism. am very worried though. I think flynny has been busted with most teams being able to work his tactics out. and his recruitment hasn’t been good at all so would want us to waste all our spare cash in January.

DT1892 wrote:We've had 2 and half years of mostly ups with Flynn and the first major down, he needs to go? Shocking. Wasn't that long ago that we would've bitten hands off for this position at this stage of the season.

He deserves the chance to turn it around. After all, look at the record the board has at appointing managers.

We’ve two games in hand that if we win puts us 3 points behind big spending Plymouth, we’ve hardly played a settled side over the last 9 games through injuries. Some fans have short memories.

Spiderman wrote:Does anyone know the players we’ve had over the years from Elite management or how many from our current squad are linked to Elite ?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/elite-m ... rater/4594

Five current (6 including manager) and lots of previous.

Morganrum wrote:

DT1892 wrote:We've had 2 and half years of mostly ups with Flynn and the first major down, he needs to go? Shocking. Wasn't that long ago that we would've bitten hands off for this position at this stage of the season.

He deserves the chance to turn it around. After all, look at the record the board has at appointing managers.

We’ve two games in hand that if we win puts us 3 points behind big spending Plymouth, we’ve hardly played a settled side over the last 9 games through injuries. Some fans have short memories.

Have you see us play before coming out with ''a win can put us 3 points behind Plymouth''....We have only taken one point from the two games we played against the bottom two teams in the league in this dreadful run we are on and you talk of winning a game and that was a very late equaliser

I missed today throwing up no booze involved!

I firmly believe sometimes you've got to work through things and come out the other side, I believe we have enough character to do that. Stick with Flynn and we will see longterm benefits I'm sure of that.

supporter wrote:I missed today throwing up no booze involved!

I firmly believe sometimes you've got to work through things and come out the other side, I believe we have enough character to do that. Stick with Flynn and we will see longterm benefits I'm sure of that.

I'd like to think that today was a step on the way to 'coming out on the other side'. I thought we played well, especially as the game went on. Some people have set their brain on critical setting and won't see it any other way. I really enjoyed the match. I haven't said that of late. It was more than just George Nurse, there were a number of good performances and heaps of effort.

supporter wrote:I missed today throwing up no booze involved!

I firmly believe sometimes you've got to work through things and come out the other side, I believe we have enough character to do that. Stick with Flynn and we will see longterm benefits I'm sure of that.

Evening mate.
Sorry you couldn't make it.
Sure brother will fill you in though.
Get well for Wednesday.
Seen far worse this season
Cheers Frank

sblair1979 wrote:

Spiderman wrote:Does anyone know the players we’ve had over the years from Elite management or how many from our current squad are linked to Elite ?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/elite-m ... rater/4594

Five current (6 including manager) and lots of previous.

Thank you , That’s really interesting, I thought the whole squad was made up of crap Elite management players and Flynny was popping champagne corks every night, but are you saying we only have 5 ?
I make that the following,

Padraig Amond - Club legend who’s goals have secured hundreds of thousands in FA cup money

Lewis Collins - Lewis’s brother made us £90k through the same management company (so easy to see why Lewis has signed up) incidentally isn’t everyone clamouring for him to start ?

Tristan Abrahams - Started the season excellent and is young with potential but seems to have lost confidence.

Danny McNamara - Has performed well and hasn’t let the club down in any capacity.

Taylor Maloney - Fair to say he’s looked lightweight despite scoring a hat trick that’s helped earn the club an extra £30k.

Previous players include

Dan Butler - Feeney
Joe Day - Edinburgh
Jamie Turley - Feeney
Conor Washington - Edinburgh
Lee Evans - Edinburgh
Alex Gilbey - Edinburgh
Arron Collins - Flynn / Edinburgh
Regan Poole - Flynn / Edinburgh
Mark Byrne - Edinburgh
Andrew Hughes - Edinburgh
Harry Mckirdy- Flynn
Lamar Reynolds - Flynn
Sid Nelson - Westley
Grego Cox - Westley


Admittedly all the players haven’t come off , but it’s fair to say there’s some club legends in that list who’ve helped get us to where we are today.

sblair1979 wrote:

Spiderman wrote:Does anyone know the players we’ve had over the years from Elite management or how many from our current squad are linked to Elite ?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/elite-m ... rater/4594

Five current (6 including manager) and lots of previous.

54 players on the list and 1 manager and we have had 20 go through the club or are still at the club..


That to me isnt right and VERY POOR scouting...(ha ha) from Michael Flynn.
Even the loan signings he gets come from that agency
Questions should be asked to the BOD as to why we rely on them so heavily ??????
A cynical person could ask why and for what reasons we use them so much ?????




you scratch my back , wink wink etc
So the 'hot new prospect' that he was so excited about when he signed him that MF was watching / had watched play and impressed him ( Reynolds ) was a client of the same agency as the manager.....Hmmmmmmmm,,,,,,make your own mind up
all these boys he gets from Championship sides on loan also turn out to be Elite Management clients......
#Hmmmmmm , you decide...
I know where my thoughts are

Thanks Frank finally got out of bed at 6.15. Probably see the bro in work tomorrow if I've fully recovered. See you Wednesday hopefully utc.

neilcork68 wrote:

sblair1979 wrote:

Spiderman wrote:Does anyone know the players we’ve had over the years from Elite management or how many from our current squad are linked to Elite ?

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/elite-m ... rater/4594

Five current (6 including manager) and lots of previous.

54 players on the list and 1 manager and we have had 20 go through the club or are still at the club..


That to me isnt right and VERY POOR scouting...(ha ha) from Michael Flynn.
Even the loan signings he gets come from that agency
Questions should be asked to the BOD as to why we rely on them so heavily ??????
A cynical person could ask why and for what reasons we use them so much ?????




you scratch my back , wink wink etc
So the 'hot new prospect' that he was so excited about when he signed him that MF was watching / had watched play and impressed him ( Reynolds ) was a client of the same agency as the manager.....Hmmmmmmmm,,,,,,make your own mind up
all these boys he gets from Championship sides on loan also turn out to be Elite Management clients......
#Hmmmmmm , you decide...
I know where my thoughts are

Have a look at the list , it’s quite surprising , odd how you picked on the one that didn’t come off

I make it 19, four of which made us over £800k, who’s the other one?

Here are some more stats, this is the agents fees paid out over the last two seasons. I can’t think of many clubs that would swap our income from our outlay of £50k. Ironically , the two most stringent clubs last season were Bury & Macclesfield.

League Two clubs' spending on agents fees February 1, 2017 - January 31, 2018

1. Coventry City £113,620
2. Mansfield Town £85,940
3. Chesterfield £80,477
4. Notts County £76,426
5. Luton Town £75,525
6. Forest Green Rovers £70,846
7. Cambridge United £42,449
8. Grimsby Town £42,232
9. Colchester United £41,617
10. Exeter City £41,540
11. Carlisle United £38,470
12. Cheltenham Town £33,123
13. Barnet £31,147
14. Port Vale £29,495
15. Lincoln City £28,549
16. Swindon Town £27,383
17. Yeovil Town £23,840
18. Newport County £19,058
19. Stevenage £17,420
20. Accrington Stanley £9,632
21. Crewe Alexandra £9,388
22. Morecambe £8,801
23. Wycombe Wanderers £7,311
24. Crawley Town £4,680


League Two clubs: Payments to agents and intermediaries 2018/19

1. Northampton £92,125
2. MK Dons £80,263
3. Mansfield £77,932
4. Cheltenham £61,253
5. Port Vale £60,027
6. Oldham Athletic £55,551
7. Notts County £55,130
8. Cambridge United £48,930
9. Lincoln City £44,434
10. Forest Green £40,431
11. Colchester United £38,642
12. Stevenage £38,460
13. Grimsby Town £38,104
14. Crawley £32,160
15. Newport County £31,952
16. Yeovil £27,931
17. Carlisle United £27,431
18. Tranmere Rovers £26,112
19. Swindon £18,000
20. Exeter City £14,490
21. Morecambe £13,486
22. Crewe Alexandra £10,638
23. Bury £6,075
24. Macclesfield Town £1,000


In fairness , Wycombe and Crewe seem to have got it correct , whilst Mansfield and Chesterfield have got it spectacularly wrong.

Spiderman wrote:Here are some more stats, this is the agents fees paid out over the last two seasons. I can’t think of many clubs that would swap our income from our outlay of £50k. Ironically , the two most stringent clubs last season were Bury & Macclesfield.

League Two clubs' spending on agents fees February 1, 2017 - January 31, 2018

1. Coventry City £113,620
2. Mansfield Town £85,940
3. Chesterfield £80,477
4. Notts County £76,426
5. Luton Town £75,525
6. Forest Green Rovers £70,846
7. Cambridge United £42,449
8. Grimsby Town £42,232
9. Colchester United £41,617
10. Exeter City £41,540
11. Carlisle United £38,470
12. Cheltenham Town £33,123
13. Barnet £31,147
14. Port Vale £29,495
15. Lincoln City £28,549
16. Swindon Town £27,383
17. Yeovil Town £23,840
18. Newport County £19,058
19. Stevenage £17,420
20. Accrington Stanley £9,632
21. Crewe Alexandra £9,388
22. Morecambe £8,801
23. Wycombe Wanderers £7,311
24. Crawley Town £4,680


League Two clubs: Payments to agents and intermediaries 2018/19

1. Northampton £92,125
2. MK Dons £80,263
3. Mansfield £77,932
4. Cheltenham £61,253
5. Port Vale £60,027
6. Oldham Athletic £55,551
7. Notts County £55,130
8. Cambridge United £48,930
9. Lincoln City £44,434
10. Forest Green £40,431
11. Colchester United £38,642
12. Stevenage £38,460
13. Grimsby Town £38,104
14. Crawley £32,160
15. Newport County £31,952
16. Yeovil £27,931
17. Carlisle United £27,431
18. Tranmere Rovers £26,112
19. Swindon £18,000
20. Exeter City £14,490
21. Morecambe £13,486
22. Crewe Alexandra £10,638
23. Bury £6,075
24. Macclesfield Town £1,000


In fairness , Wycombe and Crewe seem to have got it correct , whilst Mansfield and Chesterfield have got it spectacularly wrong.

The point you miss is that these figures only reflect direct payment. If you wish to hide the figures you simply pay the player who in turn pays the agency. And that figure is simply not known.

At the end of the last decade we were playing Dorchester Town in Conference South. Whilst we’re on a bad run we have to remember we’ve come a long way and made some great memories this decade. If you’d offered to me where we are today 10 years ago I’d have bitten your hand off. Happy new year all!