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Banning order

Postby UPTHEPORT » February 8th, 2020, 10:54 am

https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/ ... ted-crime/

Now I'm confused did this happen at the Grimsby game because the Gus just state it was same day but state he's a County fan
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Re: Banning order

Postby Stan A. Einstein » February 8th, 2020, 11:43 am

UPTHEPORT wrote:https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/18214070.newport-county-afc-fans-football-ban-racially-aggravated-crime/

Now I'm confused did this happen at the Grimsby game because the Gus just state it was same day but state he's a County fan


It was an public court. I doubt very much the Argus had a reporter there. So your guess is as good as mine. And for that matter as good as that of the South Wales Argus. :grin:
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Re: Banning order

Postby UPTHEPORT » February 8th, 2020, 11:50 am

So Fred West who was a Bristol rovers fan I didn't see headlines saying

Rovers serial killer sent down
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Re: Banning order

Postby Free beer » February 8th, 2020, 11:54 am

I seem to recall that a Grimsby "fan" had been outed by his own supporters during the game, which was commendable.
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Postby Justanordinaryfan » February 9th, 2020, 10:46 am

Definitely happened at the Grimsby game, as the guy was sitting in the row behind me.
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Postby Stan A. Einstein » February 9th, 2020, 11:44 am

Justanordinaryfan wrote:Definitely happened at the Grimsby game, as the guy was sitting in the row behind me.


What happened?
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Re: Banning order

Postby Countymax » February 11th, 2020, 3:07 pm

4 years banning order for racist abuse is too lenient. It needs to be a lifetime ban IMO. No place for it in football.
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Re: Banning order

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Re: Banning order

Postby UPTHEPORT » February 11th, 2020, 3:18 pm

So it was at our game then the Gus report just said the same day as Grimsby game
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Re: Banning order

Postby Stan A. Einstein » February 11th, 2020, 3:40 pm

Having read the very full report on the County website there is but one small point I would argue.

My own view is that the lifetime ban from the stadium is excessive. He has a four year banning order in any event. I would ban him from the stadium for the four years and then allow his readmittance on the proviso he made a full and unconditional apology and gave a written undertaking not to behave in such an outrageous manner again.

Any retribution without the possibility of redemption is merely revenge. It is probably impossible to enforce in any event. For me racism, like all forms of bigotry stems from fear and hate. I applaud hating racism, but if we allow ourselves to hate racists we become mean spirited.
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Postby excessbee » February 11th, 2020, 5:14 pm

I'd agree with that. If the law of the land decrees a four year ban from football grounds, that should be sufficient. Stewards and turnstile operaters will be fed up of keeping a weather eye on passing faces after a year or two, four years is a long time. They will struggle for a lifetime watch.
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Re: Banning order

Postby UPTHEPORT » February 11th, 2020, 5:31 pm

excessbee wrote:I'd agree with that. If the law of the land decrees a four year ban from football grounds, that should be sufficient. Stewards and turnstile operaters will be fed up of keeping a weather eye on passing faces after a year or two, four years is a long time. They will struggle for a lifetime watch.


How do you inforce a lifetime ban anyway a four year banning order haven't you got to report to local police station during every match
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Postby Countymax » February 12th, 2020, 11:34 am

Stan A. Einstein wrote:Having read the very full report on the County website there is but one small point I would argue.

My own view is that the lifetime ban from the stadium is excessive. He has a four year banning order in any event. I would ban him from the stadium for the four years and then allow his readmittance on the proviso he made a full and unconditional apology and gave a written undertaking not to behave in such an outrageous manner again.

Any retribution without the possibility of redemption is merely revenge. It is probably impossible to enforce in any event. For me racism, like all forms of bigotry stems from fear and hate. I applaud hating racism, but if we allow ourselves to hate racists we become mean spirited.


Yep, fair enough. Agree with all of that.

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