WAGES, pay rates, overtime, working conditions etc..

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WAGES, pay rates, overtime, working conditions etc..

Postby newgroundrodney » June 21st, 2018, 5:34 pm

Prompted by some comments on the other board, I've put this up to discuss all things work related: e.g work conditions, pay rates, overtime rates, both current and historical.
My first job obtained while on a YTS in 1984 gave me a first pay packet of £31.83 which was very low paid at the time....the ball park average for the same kind of retail/wholesaling being around £100.
My late mother was in service during WWll and I remember her telling me she earned £80 per year, every Weds afternoon and every 4th Sunday off. Her job was peeling grapes in a huge house in Derbyshire, where she met my Dad just as the war was finishing.
My current job, while rubbish for football, gives me 12 days off , 6 times a year if I work it right....but the money is great !
I think my worst working conditions were probably in a Cash & Carry where people were often sacked on the spot for seemingly trivial reasons.
I'm not sure what to make of the minimum wage / living wage issue, but I know quite a few people who are what might be described as low paid.
To me, the rule of thumb for knowing whether you're low paid, is before any other deductions, is your National Insurance payment HIGHER than your tax?....if so,you're probably low paid. I believe the level below which that criteria is met, is currently £16,900...which is actually £9.28 pr hr for a 35 hour week. Personally I worry for people who are out of work completely.

What are your thoughts on things work / pay related?.....
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Postby lowandhard » June 21st, 2018, 6:03 pm

At the risk of repeating myself ( post on “ kitman “ on the other board ) i seemed to do a vast variety of jobs before i got my degree and took up my profession. With the possible exception of being a paperboy at the age of 10 , every job i had ( on the buses , delivering milk, factory work, flour grader ) seemed to me to be fairly rewarded and what’s more i didnt have to knock myself out during the working day - there was always time for a chat, a cigarette and a laugh. I always enjoyed going to work and didn't feel taken advantage of, the proverbial fair days work for a fair days pay.
It was only in the latter years of my career when stress became the order of the day and was combined with below inflation wage rises that I regretted staying and working in this country and for the NHS.
I honestly feel that there is hardly a job worth having ( perhaps except footballer, porn star, politician on our expenses? ) in this society anymore. Too much is asked for far too little pay. My advice to any young person now would be to firstly try to work for yourself and secondly to do it in another country because this one is fucked - and it even has a diabolical climate too. Thank f*ck I’m retired on a pension because my heart goes out to youngsters on the job market today.
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Postby newgroundrodney » June 21st, 2018, 6:19 pm

I think if my situation reflects that of others, those who have no personal debt will see their wages go further, and feel like they're more than they are.
I don't know anymore what a good 'industrial wage' is any more.I know bus drivers in Cardiff can easily earn £30-£35k..... if that's anything to go by.
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Postby Stan A. Einstein » June 21st, 2018, 8:22 pm

Working on a building site in Merthyr in 1973. I took home £11-47p a week. My second job was delivering fruit to store holders in Newport market. J Sexty and Sons in Market Street was my employer. The legend above the door read fruit wholesale merchant and banana salesman. In the summer of 1974 £20 a week was riches beyond belief. I remember there was an old tramp who I used to give 10 pence to most mornings, Starkey he was called. I don't know if anyone else remembers him.

The memories of old men eh?
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Postby newgroundrodney » June 21st, 2018, 8:42 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote:Working on a building site in Merthyr in 1973. I took home £11-47p a week. My second job was delivering fruit to store holders in Newport market. J Sexty and Sons in Market Street was my employer. The legend above the door read fruit wholesale merchant and banana salesman. In the summer of 1974 £20 a week was riches beyond belief. I remember there was an old tramp who I used to give 10 pence to most mornings, Starkey he was called. I don't know if anyone else remembers him.

The memories of old men eh?


Around about the era emboldened above, there is an episode of 'On The Buses' where Olive works part time in the bus depot kitchen.... £12.80. Also, in a Carry On film they mention 'house keeping' as £4.00 per week. I wonder what those kind of figures equate to nowadays, and indeed, how many hours the average factory worker needed to work to pay for an average sort of price football ticket.

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