Cornish Exile wrote:
"I'd tell him to keep his mouth firmly shut"

On matters other than football I would. Getting involved with rows with fans, talking on club governance etc my advice would be not to.
I believe in freedom of speech and if he wishes to comment on these matters that is his prerogative. However if he does he opens himself up to criticism.

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Cornish Exile wrote:
"I'd tell him to keep his mouth firmly shut"

On matters other than football I would. Getting involved with rows with fans, talking on club governance etc my advice would be not to.
I believe in freedom of speech and if he wishes to comment on these matters that is his prerogative. However if he does he opens himself up to criticism.

Your post didn't make that distinction

Cornish Exile wrote:

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Cornish Exile wrote:
"I'd tell him to keep his mouth firmly shut"

On matters other than football I would. Getting involved with rows with fans, talking on club governance etc my advice would be not to.
I believe in freedom of speech and if he wishes to comment on these matters that is his prerogative. However if he does he opens himself up to criticism.

Your post didn't make that distinction

Funny how agree or disagree all the other posters could see that I was commenting on Flynn's comments about club finance. I trust those who read my posts to look at obvious context.

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Cornish Exile wrote:
"I'd tell him to keep his mouth firmly shut"

On matters other than football I would. Getting involved with rows with fans, talking on club governance etc my advice would be not to.
I believe in freedom of speech and if he wishes to comment on these matters that is his prerogative. However if he does he opens himself up to criticism.

As a football manager he will be criticised no matter what he says. I'm sure he realises by now that it comes with the job. I'd much rather see a manager in a press conference who has an opinion, speaks his mind and answers a straight question with a straight answer than a weasel who refuses to answer or trots out politically neutral non-speak.

Back to the Accounts. They appear short of the Trading figures with the income and expenditure. Without such we can,t really compare. We only made a profit the year before from receiving the Connor Washington monies. We can,t run our affairs on hoping for a transfer windfall or a once in 20 year cup run. Lets see the Income and expenditure accounts. For example what are staff costs, what profit did the shop make, what are we paying to the landlords. All good questions, we're not being told.

Nineteen Eighty wrote:Back to the Accounts. They appear short of the Trading figures with the income and expenditure. Without such we can,t really compare. We only made a profit the year before from receiving the Connor Washington monies. We can,t run our affairs on hoping for a transfer windfall or a once in 20 year cup run. Lets see the Income and expenditure accounts. For example what are staff costs, what profit did the shop make, what are we paying to the landlords. All good questions, we're not being told.

And will continue not to be told until it’s too late.

Nineteen Eighty wrote:Back to the Accounts. They appear short of the Trading figures with the income and expenditure. Without such we can,t really compare. We only made a profit the year before from receiving the Connor Washington monies. We can,t run our affairs on hoping for a transfer windfall or a once in 20 year cup run. Lets see the Income and expenditure accounts. For example what are staff costs, what profit did the shop make, what are we paying to the landlords. All good questions, we're not being told.

According to the 'lease' £75,000 pa.

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Nineteen Eighty wrote:Back to the Accounts. They appear short of the Trading figures with the income and expenditure. Without such we can,t really compare. We only made a profit the year before from receiving the Connor Washington monies. We can,t run our affairs on hoping for a transfer windfall or a once in 20 year cup run. Lets see the Income and expenditure accounts. For example what are staff costs, what profit did the shop make, what are we paying to the landlords. All good questions, we're not being told.

According to the 'lease' £75,000 pa.

Which aspects of the overall match day costs are included in that figure?

Amberexile wrote:

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Nineteen Eighty wrote:Back to the Accounts. They appear short of the Trading figures with the income and expenditure. Without such we can,t really compare. We only made a profit the year before from receiving the Connor Washington monies. We can,t run our affairs on hoping for a transfer windfall or a once in 20 year cup run. Lets see the Income and expenditure accounts. For example what are staff costs, what profit did the shop make, what are we paying to the landlords. All good questions, we're not being told.

According to the 'lease' £75,000 pa.

Which aspects of the overall match day costs are included in that figure?

County pay £75,000. Rodney Parade Limited, presumably now the WRU also have the bar takings. The agreement allows for County to reclaim a 'reasonable' percentage of the bar takings, one of Mr Redwood's complaints was these monies were never reclaimed.

Looking at the agreement match-day costs, stewarding etc, appear to be picked up by County

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Nineteen Eighty wrote:Back to the Accounts. They appear short of the Trading figures with the income and expenditure. Without such we can,t really compare. We only made a profit the year before from receiving the Connor Washington monies. We can,t run our affairs on hoping for a transfer windfall or a once in 20 year cup run. Lets see the Income and expenditure accounts. For example what are staff costs, what profit did the shop make, what are we paying to the landlords. All good questions, we're not being told.

According to the 'lease' £75,000 pa.

Which aspects of the overall match day costs are included in that figure?

County pay £75,000. Rodney Parade Limited, presumably now the WRU also have the bar takings. The agreement allows for County to reclaim a 'reasonable' percentage of the bar takings, one of Mr Redwood's complaints was these monies were never reclaimed.

Looking at the agreement match-day costs, stewarding etc, appear to be picked up by County

On the face those basic facts and compared to what other clubs pay, it looks like a bargain.
Where can I find a copy of the agreement to be able to judge this better for myself?

Amberexile wrote:

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Nineteen Eighty wrote:Back to the Accounts. They appear short of the Trading figures with the income and expenditure. Without such we can,t really compare. We only made a profit the year before from receiving the Connor Washington monies. We can,t run our affairs on hoping for a transfer windfall or a once in 20 year cup run. Lets see the Income and expenditure accounts. For example what are staff costs, what profit did the shop make, what are we paying to the landlords. All good questions, we're not being told.

According to the 'lease' £75,000 pa.

Which aspects of the overall match day costs are included in that figure?

County pay £75,000. Rodney Parade Limited, presumably now the WRU also have the bar takings. The agreement allows for County to reclaim a 'reasonable' percentage of the bar takings, one of Mr Redwood's complaints was these monies were never reclaimed.

Looking at the agreement match-day costs, stewarding etc, appear to be picked up by County

On the face those basic facts and compared to what other clubs pay, it looks like a bargain.
Where can I find a copy of the agreement to be able to judge this better for myself?

I have a copy as it was contained in the trial bundle. You could ask the club to provide you with one. Or else next time I'm in the UK I can let you see it at a County game.

The deal strikes me as not a bad one. However over 10 years with loss of bar taking that is probably about £2.000.000 it is costing us. And of course we don't have security of tenure post 2022.

hi stan. How do you figure that we lose 200 grand a year by not having the bar takings?

I've worked in pubs and the breweries charge a fortune for beer and bars are lucky to make a pound a pint sometimes and that's without having to pay staff

Jimmy Exile wrote:hi stan. How do you figure that we lose 200 grand a year by not having the bar takings?

I've worked in pubs and the breweries charge a fortune for beer and bars are lucky to make a pound a pint sometimes and that's without having to pay staff

Let's say 250 home games over 10 years. Add to that the corporate events that could be held, not to mention weddings etc. £2,000,000 strikes me as a conservative estimate. You really must learn to think if you wish to progress from pulling pints for the rest of your days.

Stan A. Einstein wrote:

Jimmy Exile wrote:hi stan. How do you figure that we lose 200 grand a year by not having the bar takings?

I've worked in pubs and the breweries charge a fortune for beer and bars are lucky to make a pound a pint sometimes and that's without having to pay staff

Let's say 250 home games over 10 years. Add to that the corporate events that could be held, not to mention weddings etc. £2,000,000 strikes me as a conservative estimate. You really must learn to think if you wish to progress from pulling pints for the rest of your days.

hi stan. very arrogant of you to demean a working mans job, you speak like a true Tory.

my grand dad used to say that the dangerously thick people are the ones who think they are clever. and in your attempt to try and belittle me and my brains, you again have made yourself look like the very thick man you are.

2,000,000 divided by 250 games is £8000.

The profit on a pint is £1.

so you think that over 10 years our crowd drinks on average 8000 pints per game.

At an average home crowd of about 2000 that's 4 pints each for every man, woman and child for every game hahahahahaha.


Let me help you with some more accurate figures. let little thick me help you.

I reckon we sell an average of about 800 pints a game. At £1 per pint profit. Over 250 games over 10 years that's about £200,000. which is 20k a year. Which is nothing.

stan, another little thing my grand dad taught me. if you are going to try and be clever, make sure you are completely sure you are right.

Unfortunately you have done the opposite again. like the redwood thread, Like the other threads, you've made yourself look really really silly.

Have a lovely weekend Stanley, thank god you were a lawyer and not an accountant lol

Ps thanks for giving me such a good laugh with your arrogant stupidness lol

Jimmy Exile wrote:
hi stan. very arrogant of you to demean a working mans job, you speak like a true Tory.

my grand dad used to say that the dangerously thick people are the ones who think they are clever. and in your attempt to try and belittle me and my brains, you again have made yourself look like the very thick man you are.

2,000,000 divided by 250 games is £8000.

The profit on a pint is £1.

so you think that over 10 years our crowd drinks on average 8000 pints per game.

At an average home crowd of about 2000 that's 4 pints each for every man, woman and child for every game hahahahahaha.


Let me help you with some more accurate figures. let little thick me help you.

I reckon we sell an average of about 800 pints a game. At £1 per pint profit. Over 250 games over 10 years that's about £200,000. which is 20k a year. Which is nothing.

stan, another little thing my grand dad taught me. if you are going to try and be clever, make sure you are completely sure you are right.

Unfortunately you have done the opposite again. like the redwood thread, Like the other threads, you've made yourself look really really silly.

Have a lovely weekend Stanley, thank god you were a lawyer and not an accountant lol

Ps thanks for giving me such a good laugh with your arrogant stupidness lol

Jimmy,

I know that you believe that by insults you hope to achieve a reaction. You will forgive me no doubt for not reacting. People can read what you say and what I say and make their own minds up.

I used to pull pints myself. Being a socialist I chose to get an education and move on. I sincerely hope that you choose to do the same.