Yes,Charlie was a skilled lawyer who happened to be a fan.I didn't go to the Court case but,the highlight has to be when the Judge asked Alun Evans of the FAW " Have you got the documentation from FIFA and UEFA to support your case ". Mr Evans replied " I haven't brought it sir because we've got the decorators in at the moment so I couldn't find it ".pembsexile wrote:Just watched it. Superb programme. They did use footage of the old BBC Wales Jerry Sherman programme from a few years back as well.
They 'bigged up' Charlie Hopkins role which was good to see. Even today I am not fully aware of the complete role he played but thank goodness he was in the toilets having a chat at one of our early games. The outcome of that chat changed the clubs future. A lot of people are responsible for getting us to where we are today but that chat was probably the most important in County history. As the programme mentioned, our most important result was getting the ruling in the High Court.
Even the title of the programme was spot on. We are a small tin pot club, who ply our trave against bigger and better financed clubs on a weekly basis. Sometime we do battle against giants of the game. We can hold our heads up with anyone within the game. Brilliant. If this programme doesn't make you feel proud to be a County fan, then nothing will. Just watch Jeff Challingsworth in the programme to see what I mean. C'mon the County.
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17I been a county fan for over 20 years and that documentary made me appreciate what i expereince today and how much loyal fans did to ensure there was a club today and hopefully for the future
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18Absolutely brilliant programme which brought a lump to my throat several times. They should put it up for an award. I have never before seen footage of the 1979 West Ham FA Cup game, I remember the pitch was terrible but not quite that terrible!
Best thing of all was they avoided the typical BBC Wales flowery Eddie Butler-style voice-over, it was all the more moving for that. It's a real document of record.
Best thing of all was they avoided the typical BBC Wales flowery Eddie Butler-style voice-over, it was all the more moving for that. It's a real document of record.
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19What a fantastic documentary. So pleased to have experienced the journey and really really shows how much we owe to so many people past and present for making Newport County the club it is. It truly did bring tears to the eye, and I'll make sure my sons watch it to fully appreciate where we've come from in my lifetime.
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20Rally enjoyed watching it with my 13 year old lad. If there was one thing that should have been included was Holdsworth's promotion season in 2010 and when Justin took over. That may have added another 30 mins on it but nice to see something on County. Well done to all involved 
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21Excellent programme. Really enjoyed it.
Wish this clip from an interview with Alun Evans could have been included and wish he had been still around when our "so remote" dream had become reality.
Wish this clip from an interview with Alun Evans could have been included and wish he had been still around when our "so remote" dream had become reality.
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22I went to one day the case at the High Court. Evans was in the witness box looking very uncomfortable throughout. At one point our barrister brought up a point I had made in an article for When Saturday Comes, I can't remember precisely what, but it tickled me that the author was sitting a few yards from him but he would have had no idea.
Waiting outside as witnesses were the then manager of Merthyr and the chairman of Bangor City. I don't know if they were called in the end. I'm pretty sure they would have been there to say that the League of Wales was appropriate for NAFC, but not for Merthyr. It has tempered my view of both clubs ever since.
My favourite bit of testimony came on another day when the then Chief Executive of the LoW was cornered into saying that that some of his testimony boiled down to saying he knew something about the attitude of UEFA was a fact because his boss (Evans) had told him so!
Waiting outside as witnesses were the then manager of Merthyr and the chairman of Bangor City. I don't know if they were called in the end. I'm pretty sure they would have been there to say that the League of Wales was appropriate for NAFC, but not for Merthyr. It has tempered my view of both clubs ever since.
My favourite bit of testimony came on another day when the then Chief Executive of the LoW was cornered into saying that that some of his testimony boiled down to saying he knew something about the attitude of UEFA was a fact because his boss (Evans) had told him so!
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23Unfortunately that clip is not available Exile.County Exile wrote:Excellent programme. Really enjoyed it.
Wish this clip from an interview with Alun Evans could have been included and wish he had been still around when our "so remote" dream had become reality.
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25The chairman of Bangor did give evidence on behalf of the FAW. I remember that there was laughter in the court when he described how poor his team had been playing in the English leagues and how good they were playing in he wonderful League of Wales.
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26Thanks, the clip works now.
There was never any evidence UEFA were particularly bothered. It was all in the heads of Evans and co.
Another delicious irony is that the then owner of Barry Town gave evidence against us. What goes around comes around, years later they were themselves threatening legal action against the FAW. Okay it was different ownership by then, but I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few of the people involved at the club in the early 90s were still around.
There was never any evidence UEFA were particularly bothered. It was all in the heads of Evans and co.
Another delicious irony is that the then owner of Barry Town gave evidence against us. What goes around comes around, years later they were themselves threatening legal action against the FAW. Okay it was different ownership by then, but I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few of the people involved at the club in the early 90s were still around.
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27Just watched it! so many memories some good some bad some heartbreaking, the goal from pop robson (in vain) and the part where everyone was coming out of the high court that part choked me up, all in all a superb programme, well done bbc wales for a change.
and the part where everyone was coming out of the high court that part choked me up, all in all a superb programme, well done bbc wales for a change.Re: The team that wouldnt die
28Working fine now Rob, thanks. Alun Evans talked about dreams and reality. Loved the bit where David Hando turned that on its head and said it is dreams that keeps the fans going. Spot on, there’s reality for you.County Exile wrote:I have tried changing youtube privacy settings. Does it work now?
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29I think the 2010 promotion at least warranted a mention , as did Scadding.
Looking back though it is incredible to think the City council wound up their football club. Today they preach how important a club is for the community yet allowed the WRU to purchase RP from under their noses.
Looking back though it is incredible to think the City council wound up their football club. Today they preach how important a club is for the community yet allowed the WRU to purchase RP from under their noses.
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30The Council had zero chance of buying RP. The WRU had it sewn up that they were the only possible purchasers.Alan G Bryant wrote:I think the 2010 promotion at least warranted a mention , as did Scadding.
Looking back though it is incredible to think the City council wound up their football club. Today they preach how important a club is for the community yet allowed the WRU to purchase RP from under their noses.
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