Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 7:16 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 6:15 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Exile 1976 wrote: February 14th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:55 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:32 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:12 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:40 pm

I am not aware that there will be any formal Trust meetings scheduled prior to the SGM, so there will not be any opportunity for HJ to attend. Further, from my recollection, it was not connected with the consultation exercise. Just a 'fuzzy feeling' thing that HJ would be invited to address the Trust at some particular unspecified Trust meeting in the future.

So the trust are just assuming that the current trust benefits package will still be gifted by HJ and the club are they?

Perhaps something was mentioned about conditions placed on HJ, with regard trust benefits, as a result of the Trust gifting shares to HJ?

If not, it seems to me, that the trust want benefits simply provided, but still want to be able to decide how money accrued (presumably due to those benefits) spent in a way that might not align with the person gifting the benefits....

I'm not in a position to answer any of those questions, I'm sorry.

No reason to be sorry, I am simply pointing out that the trust and the club are now different entities, and to discuss the future with no knowledge of how the relationship will work in future, is a tiny bit presumptuous......

I am pleased however, that it seems it is possible to have a grown up conversation on this.

For those who want me to mention the Carlisle accounts, of course they are no longer in L2 so are no longer relevant. However if people really want openness, then they need HJ to represent L2 at the EFL at the earliest opportunity (assuming he would want to).

So HJ wants the Trust to still give thousands of pounds to his club and to shut up and just do it with no benefits? That’d go down well.

Someone who receives a benefit in the form of say hospitality, who is it now providing and paying the cost of that?

That is the practical difference now that the trust and the club are separated.

However at present, it seems that the trust are still deciding the benefits, and how money is spent, and due to human nature look to personal circumstances, rather than the big picture when deciding.

What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?

Ask rncfc.... To me there would be no cost until point of sale, and then those in charge have admin costs and priority decisions to make, that fans object to. That's probably called an effect rather than cost, but it is real to those who feel wronged by others having greater priority, especially when it is a club v trust issue......

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 7:16 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 6:15 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Exile 1976 wrote: February 14th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:55 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:32 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:12 pm

So the trust are just assuming that the current trust benefits package will still be gifted by HJ and the club are they?

Perhaps something was mentioned about conditions placed on HJ, with regard trust benefits, as a result of the Trust gifting shares to HJ?

If not, it seems to me, that the trust want benefits simply provided, but still want to be able to decide how money accrued (presumably due to those benefits) spent in a way that might not align with the person gifting the benefits....

I'm not in a position to answer any of those questions, I'm sorry.

No reason to be sorry, I am simply pointing out that the trust and the club are now different entities, and to discuss the future with no knowledge of how the relationship will work in future, is a tiny bit presumptuous......

I am pleased however, that it seems it is possible to have a grown up conversation on this.

For those who want me to mention the Carlisle accounts, of course they are no longer in L2 so are no longer relevant. However if people really want openness, then they need HJ to represent L2 at the EFL at the earliest opportunity (assuming he would want to).

So HJ wants the Trust to still give thousands of pounds to his club and to shut up and just do it with no benefits? That’d go down well.

Someone who receives a benefit in the form of say hospitality, who is it now providing and paying the cost of that?

That is the practical difference now that the trust and the club are separated.

However at present, it seems that the trust are still deciding the benefits, and how money is spent, and due to human nature look to personal circumstances, rather than the big picture when deciding.

What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?

Ask rncfc.... To me there would be no cost until point of sale, and then those in charge have admin costs and priority decisions to make, that fans object to. That's probably called an effect rather than cost, but it is real to those who feel wronged by others having greater priority, especially when it is a club v trust issue......

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 7:16 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 6:15 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Exile 1976 wrote: February 14th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:55 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:32 pm

I'm not in a position to answer any of those questions, I'm sorry.

No reason to be sorry, I am simply pointing out that the trust and the club are now different entities, and to discuss the future with no knowledge of how the relationship will work in future, is a tiny bit presumptuous......

I am pleased however, that it seems it is possible to have a grown up conversation on this.

For those who want me to mention the Carlisle accounts, of course they are no longer in L2 so are no longer relevant. However if people really want openness, then they need HJ to represent L2 at the EFL at the earliest opportunity (assuming he would want to).

So HJ wants the Trust to still give thousands of pounds to his club and to shut up and just do it with no benefits? That’d go down well.

Someone who receives a benefit in the form of say hospitality, who is it now providing and paying the cost of that?

That is the practical difference now that the trust and the club are separated.

However at present, it seems that the trust are still deciding the benefits, and how money is spent, and due to human nature look to personal circumstances, rather than the big picture when deciding.

What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?

Ask rncfc.... To me there would be no cost until point of sale, and then those in charge have admin costs and priority decisions to make, that fans object to. That's probably called an effect rather than cost, but it is real to those who feel wronged by others having greater priority, especially when it is a club v trust issue......

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 7:16 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 6:15 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Exile 1976 wrote: February 14th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:55 pm

No reason to be sorry, I am simply pointing out that the trust and the club are now different entities, and to discuss the future with no knowledge of how the relationship will work in future, is a tiny bit presumptuous......

I am pleased however, that it seems it is possible to have a grown up conversation on this.

For those who want me to mention the Carlisle accounts, of course they are no longer in L2 so are no longer relevant. However if people really want openness, then they need HJ to represent L2 at the EFL at the earliest opportunity (assuming he would want to).

So HJ wants the Trust to still give thousands of pounds to his club and to shut up and just do it with no benefits? That’d go down well.

Someone who receives a benefit in the form of say hospitality, who is it now providing and paying the cost of that?

That is the practical difference now that the trust and the club are separated.

However at present, it seems that the trust are still deciding the benefits, and how money is spent, and due to human nature look to personal circumstances, rather than the big picture when deciding.

What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?

Ask rncfc.... To me there would be no cost until point of sale, and then those in charge have admin costs and priority decisions to make, that fans object to. That's probably called an effect rather than cost, but it is real to those who feel wronged by others having greater priority, especially when it is a club v trust issue......

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Exile 1976 wrote: February 14th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:55 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:32 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:12 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:40 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:28 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:14 pm The Trust AGM on the 25 January was followed by an “informal meeting with members to discuss the future of the Trust”. This informal meeting did take place. The purpose of the meeting was to canvas initial thoughts on three matters:

1. How the Trust should be run in the future. (I don't know if this includes whether the Trust should be run at all but I doubt it!).

2. How we should elect two new directors for the board of the football club and what we should expect of them;

3. How the Trust can represent the interests of supporters and best support the club under the new ownership model.

There will also be a survey of Trust members as a follow up.

Each one of the above list is a complicated matters and in my opinion too complicated for a survey alone to tackle. But at least it's an attempt at the involvement of the Trust members and that should be applauded. Having been at the meeting, I am not sure of how valid suggestions from the floor were, bearing in mind the complexities and the relatively small time to consider the issues. I am not even sure if anyone, on behalf of the Trust Board was taking note of the points made. Post the meeting, there has been no communication on it setting out the suggestions made,.

Doubtless, someone on the BOD or on behalf of the BOD will be currently designing this survey. That needs a careful design in order not to lead the result in particular directions but without going the other way and being meaningless. Whatever, I think that survey needs to be out quickly, as almost three weeks have already gone and a Special General Meeting is to be called in March or April to “make formal decisions”. So, that timetable seems to assume that the whole consultative process has been completed and the Board, by mid April at the latest, has taken the time to take proper consideration of that consultative process in order to present the concrete proposasl on which formal decisions can be made, which the Directors have promissed to do.

I think that reasonably we ought to expect to receive the survey document in the next few weeks.

I didn't attend the meeting, but understand that HJ will be attending the next trust meeting. Will that be before formal decisions, or at the launch of the survey?

I am not aware that there will be any formal Trust meetings scheduled prior to the SGM, so there will not be any opportunity for HJ to attend. Further, from my recollection, it was not connected with the consultation exercise. Just a 'fuzzy feeling' thing that HJ would be invited to address the Trust at some particular unspecified Trust meeting in the future.

So the trust are just assuming that the current trust benefits package will still be gifted by HJ and the club are they?

Perhaps something was mentioned about conditions placed on HJ, with regard trust benefits, as a result of the Trust gifting shares to HJ?

If not, it seems to me, that the trust want benefits simply provided, but still want to be able to decide how money accrued (presumably due to those benefits) spent in a way that might not align with the person gifting the benefits....

I'm not in a position to answer any of those questions, I'm sorry.

No reason to be sorry, I am simply pointing out that the trust and the club are now different entities, and to discuss the future with no knowledge of how the relationship will work in future, is a tiny bit presumptuous......

I am pleased however, that it seems it is possible to have a grown up conversation on this.

For those who want me to mention the Carlisle accounts, of course they are no longer in L2 so are no longer relevant. However if people really want openness, then they need HJ to represent L2 at the EFL at the earliest opportunity (assuming he would want to).

So HJ wants the Trust to still give thousands of pounds to his club and to shut up and just do it with no benefits? That’d go down well.

Someone who receives a benefit in the form of say hospitality, who is it now providing and paying the cost of that?

That is the practical difference now that the trust and the club are separated.

However at present, it seems that the trust are still deciding the benefits, and how money is spent, and due to human nature look to personal circumstances, rather than the big picture when deciding.

wattsville_boy wrote: February 15th, 2024, 2:01 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Exile 1976 wrote: February 14th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:55 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:32 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 3:12 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:40 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:28 pm

Chris Davis wrote: February 14th, 2024, 1:14 pm The Trust AGM on the 25 January was followed by an “informal meeting with members to discuss the future of the Trust”. This informal meeting did take place. The purpose of the meeting was to canvas initial thoughts on three matters:

1. How the Trust should be run in the future. (I don't know if this includes whether the Trust should be run at all but I doubt it!).

2. How we should elect two new directors for the board of the football club and what we should expect of them;

3. How the Trust can represent the interests of supporters and best support the club under the new ownership model.

There will also be a survey of Trust members as a follow up.

Each one of the above list is a complicated matters and in my opinion too complicated for a survey alone to tackle. But at least it's an attempt at the involvement of the Trust members and that should be applauded. Having been at the meeting, I am not sure of how valid suggestions from the floor were, bearing in mind the complexities and the relatively small time to consider the issues. I am not even sure if anyone, on behalf of the Trust Board was taking note of the points made. Post the meeting, there has been no communication on it setting out the suggestions made,.

Doubtless, someone on the BOD or on behalf of the BOD will be currently designing this survey. That needs a careful design in order not to lead the result in particular directions but without going the other way and being meaningless. Whatever, I think that survey needs to be out quickly, as almost three weeks have already gone and a Special General Meeting is to be called in March or April to “make formal decisions”. So, that timetable seems to assume that the whole consultative process has been completed and the Board, by mid April at the latest, has taken the time to take proper consideration of that consultative process in order to present the concrete proposasl on which formal decisions can be made, which the Directors have promissed to do.

I think that reasonably we ought to expect to receive the survey document in the next few weeks.

I didn't attend the meeting, but understand that HJ will be attending the next trust meeting. Will that be before formal decisions, or at the launch of the survey?

I am not aware that there will be any formal Trust meetings scheduled prior to the SGM, so there will not be any opportunity for HJ to attend. Further, from my recollection, it was not connected with the consultation exercise. Just a 'fuzzy feeling' thing that HJ would be invited to address the Trust at some particular unspecified Trust meeting in the future.

So the trust are just assuming that the current trust benefits package will still be gifted by HJ and the club are they?

Perhaps something was mentioned about conditions placed on HJ, with regard trust benefits, as a result of the Trust gifting shares to HJ?

If not, it seems to me, that the trust want benefits simply provided, but still want to be able to decide how money accrued (presumably due to those benefits) spent in a way that might not align with the person gifting the benefits....

I'm not in a position to answer any of those questions, I'm sorry.

No reason to be sorry, I am simply pointing out that the trust and the club are now different entities, and to discuss the future with no knowledge of how the relationship will work in future, is a tiny bit presumptuous......

I am pleased however, that it seems it is possible to have a grown up conversation on this.

For those who want me to mention the Carlisle accounts, of course they are no longer in L2 so are no longer relevant. However if people really want openness, then they need HJ to represent L2 at the EFL at the earliest opportunity (assuming he would want to).

So HJ wants the Trust to still give thousands of pounds to his club and to shut up and just do it with no benefits? That’d go down well.

Someone who receives a benefit in the form of say hospitality, who is it now providing and paying the cost of that?

That is the practical difference now that the trust and the club are separated.

However at present, it seems that the trust are still deciding the benefits, and how money is spent, and due to human nature look to personal circumstances, rather than the big picture when deciding.

Prior to HJ taking over the County, the Trust were averaging £8.5k a month in payments to the football club, but in the last year that accounts are available made two "one-off" payments to the club to keep it solvent. Now I expect numbers of Trust members to fall post-takeover but if the new Trust board decide to continue to contribute to the club then there is a conversation to be had regarding benefits accrued from this largese...

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 7:16 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 6:15 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Exile 1976 wrote: February 14th, 2024, 4:59 pm


So HJ wants the Trust to still give thousands of pounds to his club and to shut up and just do it with no benefits? That’d go down well.

Someone who receives a benefit in the form of say hospitality, who is it now providing and paying the cost of that?

That is the practical difference now that the trust and the club are separated.

However at present, it seems that the trust are still deciding the benefits, and how money is spent, and due to human nature look to personal circumstances, rather than the big picture when deciding.

What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?

Ask rncfc.... To me there would be no cost until point of sale, and then those in charge have admin costs and priority decisions to make, that fans object to. That's probably called an effect rather than cost, but it is real to those who feel wronged by others having greater priority, especially when it is a club v trust issue......

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Again that is the opposite to what I said, which is there is no cost to the Trust. So to you, the club has no admin costs or anything else related to ticket sales or RP?

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:21 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 7:16 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 6:15 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 5:43 pm

Someone who receives a benefit in the form of say hospitality, who is it now providing and paying the cost of that?

That is the practical difference now that the trust and the club are separated.

However at present, it seems that the trust are still deciding the benefits, and how money is spent, and due to human nature look to personal circumstances, rather than the big picture when deciding.

What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?

Ask rncfc.... To me there would be no cost until point of sale, and then those in charge have admin costs and priority decisions to make, that fans object to. That's probably called an effect rather than cost, but it is real to those who feel wronged by others having greater priority, especially when it is a club v trust issue......

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Again that is the opposite to what I said, which is there is no cost to the Trust. So to you, the club has no admin costs or anything else related to ticket sales or RP?

Forget it, you clealrly lack the intelligence to understand basic English as you keep answering a different question to the one asked.

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:21 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 7:16 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 6:15 pm

What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?

Ask rncfc.... To me there would be no cost until point of sale, and then those in charge have admin costs and priority decisions to make, that fans object to. That's probably called an effect rather than cost, but it is real to those who feel wronged by others having greater priority, especially when it is a club v trust issue......

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Again that is the opposite to what I said, which is there is no cost to the Trust. So to you, the club has no admin costs or anything else related to ticket sales or RP?

Forget it, you clealrly lack the intelligence to understand basic English as you keep answering a different question to the one asked.

So you can't answer my question then

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:21 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 7:16 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 6:15 pm

What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?

Ask rncfc.... To me there would be no cost until point of sale, and then those in charge have admin costs and priority decisions to make, that fans object to. That's probably called an effect rather than cost, but it is real to those who feel wronged by others having greater priority, especially when it is a club v trust issue......

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Again that is the opposite to what I said, which is there is no cost to the Trust. So to you, the club has no admin costs or anything else related to ticket sales or RP?

Forget it, you clealrly lack the intelligence to understand basic English as you keep answering a different question to the one asked.

So you can't answer my question then

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:21 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 14th, 2024, 7:16 pm

Ask rncfc.... To me there would be no cost until point of sale, and then those in charge have admin costs and priority decisions to make, that fans object to. That's probably called an effect rather than cost, but it is real to those who feel wronged by others having greater priority, especially when it is a club v trust issue......

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Again that is the opposite to what I said, which is there is no cost to the Trust. So to you, the club has no admin costs or anything else related to ticket sales or RP?

Forget it, you clealrly lack the intelligence to understand basic English as you keep answering a different question to the one asked.

So you can't answer my question then

OK.

I will do this very slowly to help as you are clearly among the hard of thinking.

I asked and I quote "What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?"

That is a simple question about providing priority, not about actually selling the tickets themselves. It is just about the club saying, this group of people have priority.

You have blathered on about who would pay costs and about the cost of actually selling tickets. While ignoring the point questioned

None of what you have written is relevant to actually answering that simple question.

You then complain when I repeat the question because you have answered the opposite. Saying that I am asking the opposite of what you answered. Well yes of course I am because you answered the opposite to the question asked.

Then you ask me the opposite question.

If I wanted to discuss the cost of actually selling tickets, I would have asked that question in the first place.

Which I doubt you can work out that I didn't.

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 6:36 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:21 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

Amberexile wrote: February 14th, 2024, 11:08 pm

Exactly, there is no cost.

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Again that is the opposite to what I said, which is there is no cost to the Trust. So to you, the club has no admin costs or anything else related to ticket sales or RP?

Forget it, you clealrly lack the intelligence to understand basic English as you keep answering a different question to the one asked.

So you can't answer my question then

OK.

I will do this very slowly to help as you are clearly among the hard of thinking.

I asked and I quote "What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?"

That is a simple question about providing priority, not about actually selling the tickets themselves. It is just about the club saying, this group of people have priority.

You have blathered on about who would pay costs and about the cost of actually selling tickets. While ignoring the point questioned

None of what you have written is relevant to actually answering that simple question.

You then complain when I repeat the question because you have answered the opposite. Saying that I am asking the opposite of what you answered. Well yes of course I am because you answered the opposite to the question asked.

Then you ask me the opposite question.

If I wanted to discuss the cost of actually selling tickets, I would have asked that question in the first place.

Which I doubt you can work out that I didn't.

All I have done is batted it back into your court, as you are the one that is saying there is no cost, not me.......

What is the cost to the club, can you answer? or are we going to get the usual?

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:05 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 6:36 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:21 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 8:46 am

There is no cost to the Trust, but they are no longer the body providing or deciding..........

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Again that is the opposite to what I said, which is there is no cost to the Trust. So to you, the club has no admin costs or anything else related to ticket sales or RP?

Forget it, you clealrly lack the intelligence to understand basic English as you keep answering a different question to the one asked.

So you can't answer my question then

OK.

I will do this very slowly to help as you are clearly among the hard of thinking.

I asked and I quote "What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?"

That is a simple question about providing priority, not about actually selling the tickets themselves. It is just about the club saying, this group of people have priority.

You have blathered on about who would pay costs and about the cost of actually selling tickets. While ignoring the point questioned

None of what you have written is relevant to actually answering that simple question.

You then complain when I repeat the question because you have answered the opposite. Saying that I am asking the opposite of what you answered. Well yes of course I am because you answered the opposite to the question asked.

Then you ask me the opposite question.

If I wanted to discuss the cost of actually selling tickets, I would have asked that question in the first place.

Which I doubt you can work out that I didn't.

All I have done is batted it back into your court, as you are the one that is saying there is no cost, not me.......

What is the cost to the club, can you answer? or are we going to get the usual?

I don't think you understand the question. So I doubt you will understand the answer.
As you say, I have already said, the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets is ZERO.
If you do answer, try not to show that you don't understand the question let alone the answer. It is getting very tiresome.

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:51 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:05 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 6:36 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:21 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:58 am

I was talking about the club, there is no cost to the club

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Again that is the opposite to what I said, which is there is no cost to the Trust. So to you, the club has no admin costs or anything else related to ticket sales or RP?

Forget it, you clealrly lack the intelligence to understand basic English as you keep answering a different question to the one asked.

So you can't answer my question then

OK.

I will do this very slowly to help as you are clearly among the hard of thinking.

I asked and I quote "What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?"

That is a simple question about providing priority, not about actually selling the tickets themselves. It is just about the club saying, this group of people have priority.

You have blathered on about who would pay costs and about the cost of actually selling tickets. While ignoring the point questioned

None of what you have written is relevant to actually answering that simple question.

You then complain when I repeat the question because you have answered the opposite. Saying that I am asking the opposite of what you answered. Well yes of course I am because you answered the opposite to the question asked.

Then you ask me the opposite question.

If I wanted to discuss the cost of actually selling tickets, I would have asked that question in the first place.

Which I doubt you can work out that I didn't.

All I have done is batted it back into your court, as you are the one that is saying there is no cost, not me.......

What is the cost to the club, can you answer? or are we going to get the usual?

I don't think you understand the question. So I doubt you will understand the answer.
As you say, I have already said, the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets is ZERO.
If you do answer, try not to show that you don't understand the question let alone the answer. It is getting very tiresome.

Right so you believe there is no cost to the club, its ZERO. So why do RP employ ticket booth and admin staff? Why do RP employ anyone? Surely there is no requirement as the cost to the club is ZERO......

It is the added complexity that is the real cost, if priority tickets didn't exist, they wouldn't be problems at point of sale.

The fact is that the priority tickets were put in place by the Trust, but they are not now in a position to deliver without the express consent of the club, and no one wants to listen to what the club thinks.

I understand from someone who went to the last meeting that although the trust would like to do lots of things, it is restricted by no one coming forward to put themselves forward. So 4 people with full time jobs are trying to manage everything, and have had enough.

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 10:16 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:51 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 9:05 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 6:36 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 4:59 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 3:21 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 12:04 pm

Amberexile wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:13 am

Bangitintrnet wrote: February 15th, 2024, 11:06 am

As I said the cost is in providing and deciding, and both now sit with the club, as it has seperated from the trust.

I see no additional cost in providing and deciding priority. What does this cost pay for?

Again that is the opposite to what I said, which is there is no cost to the Trust. So to you, the club has no admin costs or anything else related to ticket sales or RP?

Forget it, you clealrly lack the intelligence to understand basic English as you keep answering a different question to the one asked.

So you can't answer my question then

OK.

I will do this very slowly to help as you are clearly among the hard of thinking.

I asked and I quote "What is the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets?"

That is a simple question about providing priority, not about actually selling the tickets themselves. It is just about the club saying, this group of people have priority.

You have blathered on about who would pay costs and about the cost of actually selling tickets. While ignoring the point questioned

None of what you have written is relevant to actually answering that simple question.

You then complain when I repeat the question because you have answered the opposite. Saying that I am asking the opposite of what you answered. Well yes of course I am because you answered the opposite to the question asked.

Then you ask me the opposite question.

If I wanted to discuss the cost of actually selling tickets, I would have asked that question in the first place.

Which I doubt you can work out that I didn't.

All I have done is batted it back into your court, as you are the one that is saying there is no cost, not me.......

What is the cost to the club, can you answer? or are we going to get the usual?

I don't think you understand the question. So I doubt you will understand the answer.
As you say, I have already said, the £ cost of providing priority to buy match tickets is ZERO.
If you do answer, try not to show that you don't understand the question let alone the answer. It is getting very tiresome.

Right so you believe there is no cost to the club, its ZERO. So why do RP employ ticket booth and admin staff? Why do RP employ anyone? Surely there is no requirement as the cost to the club is ZERO......

It is the added complexity that is the real cost, if priority tickets didn't exist, they wouldn't be problems at point of sale.

The fact is that the priority tickets were put in place by the Trust, but they are not now in a position to deliver without the express consent of the club, and no one wants to listen to what the club thinks.

I understand from someone who went to the last meeting that although the trust would like to do lots of things, it is restricted by no one coming forward to put themselves forward. So 4 people with full time jobs are trying to manage everything, and have had enough.

I was right. You did not understand the question.

If 4 people have had enough of managing everything, perhaps they should have taken up offers of help when they were given. It is a bit late for them to be moaning now.