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Public transport is running, albeit with mask wearing compulsory. I would have thought that car sharing would also be back on the agenda for those that are happy to do so.
First point of call is to mention Colin's App idea at the fans meeting, to see if the club want to take it forward, assuming that Colin doesn't want to run with it ( App construction) from Australia.

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Bangitintrnet wrote: November 8th, 2021, 9:42 am Public transport is running, albeit with mask wearing compulsory. I would have thought that car sharing would also be back on the agenda for those that are happy to do so.
First point of call is to mention Colin's App idea at the fans meeting, to see if the club want to take it forward, assuming that Colin doesn't want to run with it ( App construction) from Australia.
I think the insurance and public liability pitfalls of endorsing and/or running an internal taxi network at any time let alone during a pandemic would be mindbogglingly untenable, let alone designing a specialised app for such a network.

My intuition is that there would be little demand for this service to make it viable and there are no examples of this endeavour at any other football club as far as I can see, not even at FGR.

Nice idea but an unworkable non-starter IMHO.

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Jack wrote: November 8th, 2021, 9:23 pm
Bangitintrnet wrote: November 8th, 2021, 9:42 am Public transport is running, albeit with mask wearing compulsory. I would have thought that car sharing would also be back on the agenda for those that are happy to do so.
First point of call is to mention Colin's App idea at the fans meeting, to see if the club want to take it forward, assuming that Colin doesn't want to run with it ( App construction) from Australia.
I think the insurance and public liability pitfalls of endorsing and/or running an internal taxi network at any time let alone during a pandemic would be mindbogglingly untenable, let alone designing a specialised app for such a network.

My intuition is that there would be little demand for this service to make it viable and there are no examples of this endeavour at any other football club as far as I can see, not even at FGR.

Nice idea but an unworkable non-starter IMHO.
Your statement is not wholly true. Lift share are a company that organise car sharing throughout the country. I get emails from them regularly asking if I wish to share with anybody from home to work. I see no issues with them regarding public liability pitfalls. I don’t think they would be involved if there were.

Lift share have been in partnership with the efl since 2015. I have no idea how successful the app is as I have never used it but the precedent was set.

In my opinion Colins idea has merit, it could work, just needs legs. I cannot find any evidence of a club using a unique app as per Colins suggestion but someone has to be the first I suppose. If it was successful and could be rolled out over the efl, if the club own it, it could (I say could), be a massive money spinner for the club. Green as well.

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Absolutely, I was not aware of lift share, but assuming that Colin's idea has legs, it could be as simple or as complex as you want. Uber had to start somewhere, and I assume as the App is so impressive, then it cost an impressive amount as well.

At the other end of the scale would be a map with pins in it detailing a rough location of drivers willing to participate.

A potential car sharer would then be logged onto the site, verified in someway, and put in contact with the driver, without either party being identified initially. When it is mutually agreed to proceed, then communication could proceed to decide if timings and pick up/drop off points are mutually acceptable. After all the driver might not be best pleased if it is someone seeking a lift to town and back with heavy shopping.

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We're not allowed to make a profit unless we have a private hire or taxi license, I just can't see it being a viable profit-making endeavour wherein a football club runs a ride-sharing / taxi service for a handful of Saturdays and Tuesdays a year.

Alternatively, you can book bus journeys via Newport Bus' "fflecsi" app for your nearest pick-up point regardless of whether you're close to a bus stop or not. I think it's an excellent idea.

Maybe we can strengthen ties and promote this as a viable form of transport with those having difficulty attending via conventional bus transportation, maybe even encourage the council to include Rodney Parade as a drop off point on fixture dates.

https://www.fflecsi.wales/locations/newport/

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Anyone know if the Fflecsi bus service is limited to Newport? I assume as it is run by Newport Bus it has to be in their patch, but they do run connection services to other town's and City's. So the question is could it be provided in area's that doesn't have Fflecsi buses, or would that area have to provide their own service, unconnected to a neighbor service?

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Bangitintrnet wrote: November 9th, 2021, 4:43 pm Anyone know if the Fflecsi bus service is limited to Newport? I assume as it is run by Newport Bus it has to be in their patch, but they do run connection services to other town's and City's. So the question is could it be provided in area's that doesn't have Fflecsi buses, or would that area have to provide their own service, unconnected to a neighbor service?
Yes, the flexi service is limited to Newport. See my post on 6 Nov where I mentioned it. I followed the link that was put up.

My idea was to run some car sharing outside the flexi area.Cwmbran, Croesy, Blackwood, Pontypool etc. According to the map, flexi does not cover these areas.

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Bangitintrnet wrote: November 6th, 2021, 11:14 am
pembsexile wrote: November 6th, 2021, 8:55 am Some good suggestions coming in. My contribution to the travel idea was that we reduce the amount of travel or use EV. No way would I want the club to have to fork out for shared travel. If there would be a bus to travel the Newport catchment area, it would be right and proper that the travelling fans pay for it. Needs a lot more thought but it could be done. Colins idea of a Uber type app is great.

I have no idea as to the current Newport transport arrangements (times and routes of buses etc) as I don’t live locally anymore. We could pick up the fans who can’t travel anymore. One of our prominent posters on here doesn’t go to games anymore because of restricted travel arrangements. He may use the facility if it was available.

I have been reliably informed that the efl are about to issue some kind of green initiative to clubs. It will be interesting to see what it is about. Good on them but we don’t want FGR to get too far ahead of us in this table!

Please keep the ideas coming in and I will make a list of the ideas at a later date.

https://www.fflecsi.wales/locations/newport/

This is what is available in Newport, which covers up to 11pm. The idea is to reduce the amount of fixed service buses running next to empty, and is obviously a green initiative, as well as sensible.

Some under fifteens are bussed by the academy, where they have difficult transport options.

Providing an alternative to public transport, is just adding to the problem, not providing a green initiative.

As for starting a bus in Ebbw Vale, I have met County fans who used to come to games from there, as well as Brynmawr, Blaina, Nantyglo and Abertillery. However they were all well into their 80's.

I would suggest that a car sharing service is better for the valleys, along the lines that Colin has suggested.

Finally did the ill fated Ebbw Vale/Newport Rugby franchise deliver many Ebbw Vale based fans?
I don't believe you can just join separate populations together, and assume they will act as one.

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Stan A. Einstein wrote: November 6th, 2021, 4:13 pm The App I agree. But would it not be possible to put a sticky up on Everything else, inviting people either with spare seats in their cars or willing to share petrol expenses to contact each other, via the board? People could make their requests and then PM each other.
Have to agree with others Brendan - a sticky is an old fashioned and long winded way of doing this job. An app is the way imo. Effective, modern and ‘cleaner’.

As previously mentioned, there are other travel apps available such as Liftshare, Kinto and bla,bla car. However, these are not specific to football clubs. I just feel that it would be a great idea to get our own.

I am not a software specialist, but I certainly know someone who is. He tells me it is certainly technically viable and is giving it some thought. However, this may just be ‘small fry’ to him but he sees the validity and potential and is a County supporter. Fingers crossed. I have stated to him that I have no idea how it could make money as people would probably not pay to register or pay for an app. Advertising would probably be the way. I have no idea how to do that.

The potential is enormous. If (if) it worked and was successful, we could sell it to other clubs.

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Hi Mike,

I don't disagree about travel apps. I think they are a good idea. My view remains though that we should explore every avenue. The reason I think we should utilize this board is simply that Brian Gough, in the last year of his life got to watch Newport County long after he had given up on watching County ever again. Promoted as Champions from Conference south my last memory of Brian is of driving him home to Berkshire from that game and Brian being happy he had lived to see County back on the national stage. But for this board we would never have met.

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I should add that I would probably have stayed in Ireland to watch on TV the Spurs replay at Wembley. But again via this board our good friend New Ground Rodney, arranged to get me tickets. Typical of the very nice man Gary was. It's a two way thing.

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Stan A. Einstein wrote: November 10th, 2021, 1:52 pm Hi Mike,

I don't disagree about travel apps. I think they are a good idea. My view remains though that we should explore every avenue. The reason I think we should utilize this board is simply that Brian Gough, in the last year of his life got to watch Newport County long after he had given up on watching County ever again. Promoted as Champions from Conference south my last memory of Brian is of driving him home to Berkshire from that game and Brian being happy he had lived to see County back on the national stage. But for this board we would never have met.

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I should add that I would probably have stayed in Ireland to watch on TV the Spurs replay at Wembley. But again via this board our good friend New Ground Rodney, arranged to get me tickets. Typical of the very nice man Gary was. It's a two way thing.
I'm not if I have the right person, but did Brian Gough play for Newport County or Colchester United?

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I don't think Brian played for either. He was a fanatical County supporter struck down at far too early an age with Parkinson's disease. He enjoyed coming on this board as it allowed him to have some contact with other County supporters. He told me once he had never quite forgiven his father for not taking him to the famous FA Cup tie with Portsmouth in the late 1940's. He's been gone now over eleven years. Time goes by ever more quickly.

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A recent United Nations backed Sports positive summit asked leading clubs in England as to what their activities in the following area were:
Clean energy
Energy efficiency
Sustainable transport
Single use plastic reduction or removal
Waste management
Water efficiency
Plant based low carbon food

They were then ranked in a table according to their responses.

So it seems that these are the areas that clubs should be working on regarding green issues. That’s quite a lot.

Professor Mike Berners Lee from the Lancaster Institute of Social futures and the author of No Planet B has highlighted - surprise, surprise, fan travel including car sharing schemes as the most important area where clubs can have an impact on reducing carbon emissions.

All this info’ is on a BBC report on their webpage. Interesting reading.

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