Re: News regarding ex County players

2011
Exeter have received nearly £4.5m from Ollie Watkins alone. Great bit of business, and using £2.2m of that to upgrade their training ground facilities.
They also made £1.75m selling Grimes and around the same figure for Ampadu. They certainly know what they're doing down there now, considering they were non league and in administration in 2003.
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Re: News regarding ex County players

2012
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:20 am Exeter have received nearly £4.5m from Ollie Watkins alone. Great bit of business, and using £2.2m of that to upgrade their training ground facilities.
They also made £1.75m selling Grimes and around the same figure for Ampadu. They certainly know what they're doing down there.
Yes indeed well done Exeter. And if we are ever to receive £7 million+ from transfers I would expect us to invest in training facilities also. The reality is of course we haven't.

Re: News regarding ex County players

2013
OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:27 am
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:20 am Exeter have received nearly £4.5m from Ollie Watkins alone. Great bit of business, and using £2.2m of that to upgrade their training ground facilities.
They also made £1.75m selling Grimes and around the same figure for Ampadu. They certainly know what they're doing down there.
Yes indeed well done Exeter. And if we are ever to receive £7 million+ from transfers I would expect us to invest in training facilities also. The reality is of course we haven't.

Genuinely, did we invest any of the c.£2m in cup money or the fees/sell ons from Poole/Washington transfers in training facilities?

Re: News regarding ex County players

2015
Bangitintrnet wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:44 am Burton Albion benefit from having the national training centre on their doorstep. Likewise having the ability to use Dragon Park is not a hindrance.

Spytty also has lots of other facilities to use purely for fitness, static cycles at the velodrome, running track, swimming etc etc.

Our previous manager thought it was a hinderance. Wanted money spent on our own facilities as he was fed up having to move around training at Hartridge and wherever else they could find when we couldn't use the other facilities,

Re: News regarding ex County players

2016
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:38 am
OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:27 am
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:20 am Exeter have received nearly £4.5m from Ollie Watkins alone. Great bit of business, and using £2.2m of that to upgrade their training ground facilities.
They also made £1.75m selling Grimes and around the same figure for Ampadu. They certainly know what they're doing down there.
Yes indeed well done Exeter. And if we are ever to receive £7 million+ from transfers I would expect us to invest in training facilities also. The reality is of course we haven't.

Genuinely, did we invest any of the c.£2m in cup money or the fees/sell ons from Poole/Washington transfers in training facilities?

Don't believe we did. Personally would have liked to have seen us do so, but the point I wish to emphasise is that whatever the true amounts are, I don't believe we have benefitted financially by anywhere near as much as Exeter, therefore any expectation for us to achieve as much as they have with less is fantasy.

Re: News regarding ex County players

2017
OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:54 am
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:38 am
OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:27 am
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:20 am Exeter have received nearly £4.5m from Ollie Watkins alone. Great bit of business, and using £2.2m of that to upgrade their training ground facilities.
They also made £1.75m selling Grimes and around the same figure for Ampadu. They certainly know what they're doing down there.
Yes indeed well done Exeter. And if we are ever to receive £7 million+ from transfers I would expect us to invest in training facilities also. The reality is of course we haven't.

Genuinely, did we invest any of the c.£2m in cup money or the fees/sell ons from Poole/Washington transfers in training facilities?

Don't believe we did. Personally would have liked to have seen us do so, but the point I wish to emphasise is that whatever the true amounts are, I don't believe we have benefitted financially by anywhere near as much as Exeter, therefore any expectation for us to achieve as much as they have with less is fantasy.

Not asking us to achieve as much as they have but we have received c.£3.5-4m in cup money, transfers and sell-on fees and have nothing extra to show for it let alone achieving what Exeter have.

Re: News regarding ex County players

2018
It's not like the cup money etc arrived in one lump. To some extent the gradual accumulation must have been made possible by investing one year's profit in the following year's team. And bear in mind one really bad tackle on Ollie Watkins before he joined Villa from Brentford and Exeter don't get that training ground. It's always in the lap of the gods.

if we'd said at some point "All unbudgeted income will go towards a training ground, but beware this means our realistic playing target for the next X years will be staying out of the bottom two" what would people have thought? Maybe it would have got a thumbs-up? I don't know.

Re: News regarding ex County players

2019
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 9:36 am
OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:54 am
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:38 am
OLDCROMWELLIAN wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:27 am
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:20 am Exeter have received nearly £4.5m from Ollie Watkins alone. Great bit of business, and using £2.2m of that to upgrade their training ground facilities.
They also made £1.75m selling Grimes and around the same figure for Ampadu. They certainly know what they're doing down there.
Yes indeed well done Exeter. And if we are ever to receive £7 million+ from transfers I would expect us to invest in training facilities also. The reality is of course we haven't.

Genuinely, did we invest any of the c.£2m in cup money or the fees/sell ons from Poole/Washington transfers in training facilities?

Don't believe we did. Personally would have liked to have seen us do so, but the point I wish to emphasise is that whatever the true amounts are, I don't believe we have benefitted financially by anywhere near as much as Exeter, therefore any expectation for us to achieve as much as they have with less is fantasy.

Not asking us to achieve as much as they have but we have received c.£3.5-4m in cup money, transfers and sell-on fees and have nothing extra to show for it let alone achieving what Exeter have.
Think we are broadly of the same mind and agree that we have nothing to show for our cup monies, yet other posters appear to be suggesting we should be achieving as much as Exeter.

Re: News regarding ex County players

2020
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:51 am
Bangitintrnet wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:44 am Burton Albion benefit from having the national training centre on their doorstep. Likewise having the ability to use Dragon Park is not a hindrance.

Spytty also has lots of other facilities to use purely for fitness, static cycles at the velodrome, running track, swimming etc etc.

Our previous manager thought it was a hinderance. Wanted money spent on our own facilities as he was fed up having to move around training at Hartridge and wherever else they could find when we couldn't use the other facilities,
Our previous Manager though also wasted lots of money securing the services of players managed by Elite. Perhaps if he had spread the net wider than Elite we may have had some monies to put towards a training complex.

Re: News regarding ex County players

2021
wattsville_boy wrote: June 12th, 2022, 1:59 pm
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:51 am
Bangitintrnet wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:44 am Burton Albion benefit from having the national training centre on their doorstep. Likewise having the ability to use Dragon Park is not a hindrance.

Spytty also has lots of other facilities to use purely for fitness, static cycles at the velodrome, running track, swimming etc etc.

Our previous manager thought it was a hinderance. Wanted money spent on our own facilities as he was fed up having to move around training at Hartridge and wherever else they could find when we couldn't use the other facilities,
Our previous Manager though also wasted lots of money securing the services of players managed by Elite. Perhaps if he had spread the net wider than Elite we may have had some monies to put towards a training complex.
Manager can only spend what the Board allow him to.

Re: News regarding ex County players

2022
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 2:00 pm
wattsville_boy wrote: June 12th, 2022, 1:59 pm
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:51 am
Bangitintrnet wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:44 am Burton Albion benefit from having the national training centre on their doorstep. Likewise having the ability to use Dragon Park is not a hindrance.

Spytty also has lots of other facilities to use purely for fitness, static cycles at the velodrome, running track, swimming etc etc.

Our previous manager thought it was a hinderance. Wanted money spent on our own facilities as he was fed up having to move around training at Hartridge and wherever else they could find when we couldn't use the other facilities,
Our previous Manager though also wasted lots of money securing the services of players managed by Elite. Perhaps if he had spread the net wider than Elite we may have had some monies to put towards a training complex.
Manager can only spend what the Board allow him to.
Agree. And didn't County have some sort of tie-in with Elite for awhile. But there is a difference between allowing the Manager money to buy players and allowing him to waste money on players not up to standard. And too many players were brought in, that were managed by Elite, that were not good enough. Hence the appointment of the Sporting Director and Flynn throwing his toys out the pram.

I think it's a fair criticism of Flynn's transfer policy in relation to the budgets he was given each year. In many ways he was a good Manager, on transfers he wasn't so good.

Re: News regarding ex County players

2023
wattsville_boy wrote: June 12th, 2022, 2:11 pm
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 2:00 pm
wattsville_boy wrote: June 12th, 2022, 1:59 pm
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:51 am
Bangitintrnet wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:44 am Burton Albion benefit from having the national training centre on their doorstep. Likewise having the ability to use Dragon Park is not a hindrance.

Spytty also has lots of other facilities to use purely for fitness, static cycles at the velodrome, running track, swimming etc etc.

Our previous manager thought it was a hinderance. Wanted money spent on our own facilities as he was fed up having to move around training at Hartridge and wherever else they could find when we couldn't use the other facilities,
Our previous Manager though also wasted lots of money securing the services of players managed by Elite. Perhaps if he had spread the net wider than Elite we may have had some monies to put towards a training complex.
Manager can only spend what the Board allow him to.
Agree. And didn't County have some sort of tie-in with Elite for awhile. But there is a difference between allowing the Manager money to buy players and allowing him to waste money on players not up to standard. And too many players were brought in, that were managed by Elite, that were not good enough. Hence the appointment of the Sporting Director and Flynn throwing his toys out the pram.

I think it's a fair criticism of Flynn's transfer policy in relation to the budgets he was given each year. In many ways he was a good Manager, on transfers he wasn't so good.

Of course he wasted money, we know that, BUT, that shouldn't take away from the fact as a club we have absolutely shit all to show for the vast sums of money we've made over the last few years.

Re: News regarding ex County players

2025
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 2:16 pm
wattsville_boy wrote: June 12th, 2022, 2:11 pm
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 2:00 pm
wattsville_boy wrote: June 12th, 2022, 1:59 pm
Exile 1976 wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:51 am
Bangitintrnet wrote: June 12th, 2022, 8:44 am Burton Albion benefit from having the national training centre on their doorstep. Likewise having the ability to use Dragon Park is not a hindrance.

Spytty also has lots of other facilities to use purely for fitness, static cycles at the velodrome, running track, swimming etc etc.

Our previous manager thought it was a hinderance. Wanted money spent on our own facilities as he was fed up having to move around training at Hartridge and wherever else they could find when we couldn't use the other facilities,
Our previous Manager though also wasted lots of money securing the services of players managed by Elite. Perhaps if he had spread the net wider than Elite we may have had some monies to put towards a training complex.
Manager can only spend what the Board allow him to.
Agree. And didn't County have some sort of tie-in with Elite for awhile. But there is a difference between allowing the Manager money to buy players and allowing him to waste money on players not up to standard. And too many players were brought in, that were managed by Elite, that were not good enough. Hence the appointment of the Sporting Director and Flynn throwing his toys out the pram.

I think it's a fair criticism of Flynn's transfer policy in relation to the budgets he was given each year. In many ways he was a good Manager, on transfers he wasn't so good.

Of course he wasted money, we know that, BUT, that shouldn't take away from the fact as a club we have absolutely shit all to show for the vast sums of money we've made over the last few years.
...because Flynn was allowed to dictate the budget he needed and then spend it unwisely...

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