And of course ancillary stuff for the pitch like fertiliser and conditioners, covers, security equipment, electronic scoreboards and advertising, cleaning and upkeep of the seating and facilities. Plus of course all the other stadium staff, ground upkeep and capital investment to improve it, bar stock etc etc So not a trivial amount. It’s ok if you’re non-league staffed by volunteers with a plastic pitch but a pitch like ours and with hospitality facilities etc doesn’t come cheap.

When you only have 10 home matches, as the Dragons do, it becomes not only expensive per game, but also in terms of organisation. How do you retain the trained staff necessary to run the hospitality, food and bars? How can you utilise un-drunk beer in the barrel that has a short shelf life? Who is on site to receive and remove barrels, etc etc.

The costs are only one side of the equation, there is the additional income generating opportunities to be considered. Items such as naming rights, concerts, and conferences. All revenue streams that other Clubs seem to capture, and of course ground sharing makes economic sense as well.

Bring back the firework display

Taunton Iron Cider wrote: November 9th, 2021, 5:01 pm The costs are only one side of the equation, there is the additional income generating opportunities to be considered. Items such as naming rights, concerts, and conferences. All revenue streams that other Clubs seem to capture, and of course ground sharing makes economic sense as well.

There are some advantages to renting, there are some to owning. Likewise disadvantages to both. What I don't think is ever a good idea is renting when the other user of the facility owns the property. Be that a home or a football stadium. And much as I usually agree with Highandwide, I don't really see any advantage in being able to up sticks at a moments notice if you're a football club. Although the good people of Newport Shropshire/Pembrokeshire/Isle of Wight might beg to differ. (Note how enlightened supporters can disagree with one another without falling into rancor.

However it's an interesting debate, and with nearly 9,000 hits clearly a topic on which the enlightened amongst see as a useful topic of conversation.

Again, that is not what David Buttress is saying in the podcast. He is saying that the Dragon's will separate from the WRU, but the WRU will still be the Landlord. So both the Dragons and County will have long "leases" with County still having priority as required by the football league.

9,000 hits and rising.

On a topic nobody is interested in.

Stan A. Einstein wrote: November 10th, 2021, 9:02 am 9,000 hits and rising.

On a topic nobody is interested in.

It was a pointless vote because the questions put were loaded, ignoring the opposite opinion. Therefore people are voicing their opinions. Why the quantity of hits has any relevance, I am not sure. But then again linking numbers in an unrelated way seems to float your boat.

God knows how many times I've said this, but the analogy with renting out a spare room in a private house doesn't stand up. It only works if the market for that in the town in question consists of one individual wanting a roof over their head and one householder.

It is worse for Newport County than the private renter who is a person requiring to rent a room. You see the person renting a room has the option of finding another room. Newport County can't move to another stadium.

A stupid argument remains a stupid argument no matter how many times you say it. I'm sure God knows that, I suspect you'll find most of us mere mortals know that as well.

Discounting your typically cracked second para, pretty obviously the domestic landlord also has a choice of tenants which a stadium owner doesn't. Newport RFC having failed - without which we wouldn't have had a sniff of a share - County are the only conceivable sharer.

George Street-Bridge wrote: November 10th, 2021, 9:41 am Discounting your typically cracked second para, pretty obviously the domestic landlord also has a choice of tenants which a stadium owner doesn't. Newport RFC having failed - without which we wouldn't have had a sniff of a share - County are the only conceivable sharer.

In this particular case the landlord does have a choice, and probably their preferred one of developing the site for housing.

How on earth do Swindon persuade over 2000 fans to turn out for a reserve game on a Tuesday night when the result is of little importance and they could watch it from the comfort of their armchairs? Admittedly they had over 9000 for their last L2 game.

it isn't an either/or.

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The point being Newport County don't have a choice. If the rugby decide we must go we are f@cked. If the rugby decide to charge a rent which is too high, we have no option but to pay it.

I only studied economics until the end of the first year of my first degree. However unless you can grasp that simple rule of economics then you're heading for an unclassified in GCSE.

Most of you will know the story of the inn keeper who hired out horses. He was the only person for miles around who did so. He charged premium rates for battered old nags. You either paid him what he wanted or you walked. The innkeeper's name was Hobson.

Hence Hobson' s choice.