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Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:21 am
whoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 9:28 am
Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:51 am

The front-runner in a two horse race is rarely anything other than the favourite. If the S W Argus are reporting him to be the front-runner this must be based on something. They have either seen the bids or they are reporting information relayed to them by someone who has. They wouldn't be so unprofessional as to go on heresy from either bidders.

But you've used the term 'the' front runner, whilst the Argus article says 'a' front runner. They are not the same meanings or contexts, which is possibly why the article used 'a' and not 'the'.
We're being told it's a two horse race. In
a two horse race the frontrunner is 'the' frontrunner. They can't be anything else.
As I said above, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the precise wording used in our much-loved local rag. That A or B is a front runner may just mean that he is one of the two left at the front of a larger field of contenders, who knows? It’s probably folly to analyse forensically the Sybil-like pronouncements made in an organ that is not highly respected for it’s good lucid prose.

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Amberexile wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:24 am
Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:09 am
JonD wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:07 am I'm somewhat confused by bidders. I thought there were two but neither of them features Huw, so I assume he is affiliated to one of the two I have heard about. My, it's hard to keep up.
Same, I thought it was JP V DB. If Huw's aligned to one of these then that gets my vote.
DB has not shown an interest, you were misled by disinformation. We don't really know that JP has either although maybe the recent activity will smoke him out.
Are you sure? Some of the wise old sages on here seem pretty adamant.

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Chris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:20 am
whoareya wrote:
Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 12th, 2023, 8:00 pm Try reading that which is written.

The important word is that Huw Jenkins is the ''FAVOURITE' (Sorry to shout.)

If this were leaked by either Mr Jenkins or Mr Pratt the story line would merely be that Mr Jenkins is in the frame. Only the known attitude of the board could have allowed the words that Mr Jenkins is the favourite to have been written.

It is possible but extremely unlikely that analysis is incorrect.
Where does the Argus article say that he's the favourite?

It says 'a front runner' and 'a leading contender', not the favourite.
Yes, I've read the article twice and at no point does it say that HJ is the favourite. It says that he is " a frontrunner" (note 'a' not 'the') and "has long been a leading candidate" (again 'a' and not 'the'). So, have I read "that which is written" differently from Stan?
Not really. Front runner, favourite. Buy a thesaurus.

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Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:36 am
Amberexile wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:24 am
Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:09 am
JonD wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:07 am I'm somewhat confused by bidders. I thought there were two but neither of them features Huw, so I assume he is affiliated to one of the two I have heard about. My, it's hard to keep up.
Same, I thought it was JP V DB. If Huw's aligned to one of these then that gets my vote.
DB has not shown an interest, you were misled by disinformation. We don't really know that JP has either although maybe the recent activity will smoke him out.
Are you sure? Some of the wise old sages on here seem pretty adamant.
He specialises in equity funding with investors (and advising the current Conservative government, but that's another story) so I'm sure he's had discussions along those lines, but that might not have progressed to actually submitting a bid.
Unless I've missed it, we don't actually know how many bids have been made, but the assumption is that only two bids have been submitted.

There may be/have been more.

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Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:42 am
Chris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:20 am
whoareya wrote:
Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 12th, 2023, 8:00 pm Try reading that which is written.

The important word is that Huw Jenkins is the ''FAVOURITE' (Sorry to shout.)

If this were leaked by either Mr Jenkins or Mr Pratt the story line would merely be that Mr Jenkins is in the frame. Only the known attitude of the board could have allowed the words that Mr Jenkins is the favourite to have been written.

It is possible but extremely unlikely that analysis is incorrect.
Where does the Argus article say that he's the favourite?

It says 'a front runner' and 'a leading contender', not the favourite.
Yes, I've read the article twice and at no point does it say that HJ is the favourite. It says that he is " a frontrunner" (note 'a' not 'the') and "has long been a leading candidate" (again 'a' and not 'the'). So, have I read "that which is written" differently from Stan?
Not really. Front runner, favourite. Buy a thesaurus.
I think the difference may be in the use of the appropriate article. The Argus piece says 'a' and not 'the'.

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Chris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:51 am
Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:42 am
Chris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:20 am
whoareya wrote:
Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 12th, 2023, 8:00 pm Try reading that which is written.

The important word is that Huw Jenkins is the ''FAVOURITE' (Sorry to shout.)

If this were leaked by either Mr Jenkins or Mr Pratt the story line would merely be that Mr Jenkins is in the frame. Only the known attitude of the board could have allowed the words that Mr Jenkins is the favourite to have been written.

It is possible but extremely unlikely that analysis is incorrect.
Where does the Argus article say that he's the favourite?

It says 'a front runner' and 'a leading contender', not the favourite.
Yes, I've read the article twice and at no point does it say that HJ is the favourite. It says that he is " a frontrunner" (note 'a' not 'the') and "has long been a leading candidate" (again 'a' and not 'the'). So, have I read "that which is written" differently from Stan?
Not really. Front runner, favourite. Buy a thesaurus.
I think the difference may be in the use of the appropriate article. The Argus piece says 'a' and not 'the'.
As I said above

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whoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:46 am
Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:36 am
Amberexile wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:24 am
Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:09 am
JonD wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:07 am I'm somewhat confused by bidders. I thought there were two but neither of them features Huw, so I assume he is affiliated to one of the two I have heard about. My, it's hard to keep up.
Same, I thought it was JP V DB. If Huw's aligned to one of these then that gets my vote.
DB has not shown an interest, you were misled by disinformation. We don't really know that JP has either although maybe the recent activity will smoke him out.
Are you sure? Some of the wise old sages on here seem pretty adamant.
He specialises in equity funding with investors (and advising the current Conservative government, but that's another story) so I'm sure he's had discussions along those lines, but that might not have progressed to actually submitting a bid.
Unless I've missed it, we don't actually know how many bids have been made, but the assumption is that only two bids have been submitted.

There may be/have been more.
Someone will correct me but I believe Colin Everett said there were 2 confirmed bids in a Radio Wales Sport programme before the Dons home game.

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Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:42 am
Chris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:20 am
whoareya wrote:
Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 12th, 2023, 8:00 pm Try reading that which is written.

The important word is that Huw Jenkins is the ''FAVOURITE' (Sorry to shout.)

If this were leaked by either Mr Jenkins or Mr Pratt the story line would merely be that Mr Jenkins is in the frame. Only the known attitude of the board could have allowed the words that Mr Jenkins is the favourite to have been written.

It is possible but extremely unlikely that analysis is incorrect.
Where does the Argus article say that he's the favourite?

It says 'a front runner' and 'a leading contender', not the favourite.
Yes, I've read the article twice and at no point does it say that HJ is the favourite. It says that he is " a frontrunner" (note 'a' not 'the') and "has long been a leading candidate" (again 'a' and not 'the'). So, have I read "that which is written" differently from Stan?
Not really. Front runner, favourite. Buy a thesaurus.
'A', 'the' not the same.
Try practising what you preach, read that which is written then buy some humility and admit you were wrong.

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excessbee wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:25 am Could it be that two bids have merged, or are in the process of doing so? Or maybe one bidder has withdrawn.
The way in which Jenkins has trialled his name (no doubt though allies) in the SW Argus and BBC makes me believe he is very much bidding solo or trying to pressure the other party to fall in line

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Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:52 am
whoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:46 am
Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:36 am
Amberexile wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:24 am
Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:09 am
JonD wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:07 am I'm somewhat confused by bidders. I thought there were two but neither of them features Huw, so I assume he is affiliated to one of the two I have heard about. My, it's hard to keep up.
Same, I thought it was JP V DB. If Huw's aligned to one of these then that gets my vote.
DB has not shown an interest, you were misled by disinformation. We don't really know that JP has either although maybe the recent activity will smoke him out.
Are you sure? Some of the wise old sages on here seem pretty adamant.
He specialises in equity funding with investors (and advising the current Conservative government, but that's another story) so I'm sure he's had discussions along those lines, but that might not have progressed to actually submitting a bid.
Unless I've missed it, we don't actually know how many bids have been made, but the assumption is that only two bids have been submitted.

There may be/have been more.
Someone will correct me but I believe Colin Everett said there were 2 confirmed bids in a Radio Wales Sport programme before the Dons home game.
Thanks for that, I suppose that fits in with the original deadline given, so perhaps there are just two.

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lowandhard wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:35 am
Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:21 am
whoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 9:28 am
Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:51 am

The front-runner in a two horse race is rarely anything other than the favourite. If the S W Argus are reporting him to be the front-runner this must be based on something. They have either seen the bids or they are reporting information relayed to them by someone who has. They wouldn't be so unprofessional as to go on heresy from either bidders.

But you've used the term 'the' front runner, whilst the Argus article says 'a' front runner. They are not the same meanings or contexts, which is possibly why the article used 'a' and not 'the'.
We're being told it's a two horse race. In
a two horse race the frontrunner is 'the' frontrunner. They can't be anything else.
As I said above, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the precise wording used in our much-loved local rag. That A or B is a front runner may just mean that he is one of the two left at the front of a larger field of contenders, who knows? It’s probably folly to analyse forensically the Sybil-like pronouncements made in an organ that is not highly respected for it’s good lucid prose.
Morning Mike,

Have to disagree with you I'm afraid. We were told that there were two viable bidders by the club. I had previously been informed that they were Mr Jenkins and Mr Pratt. The board also indicated that they would have a preferred candidate. They are of course perfectly entitled to express their view.

Now I agree you can over analyse but one name has been released. Whether the term front runner or favourite is used that's irrelevant. They both mean the same. Further if supporters are to make choice they need the full details of both bids. That, thus far has not been forthcoming.

Further I fail to see why those members who can't attend are disenfranchised. However as the boardvcan choose a date when they and their friends and family turn up, it just about ensures the vote will go the way they wish.

Now to be clear. I know neither Mr Jenkins or Mr Pratt. I have no preferred bidder. What I would hope is that the best candidate for the future wins. That candidate might well be Mr Jenkins.

And here's the thing. Everybody on here wants the best for Newport County. But already people on here are saying their happy with Mr Jenkins. But what if Mr Pratt's offer is the better one?

I don't know who the better candidate is. Neither does anyone else.

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Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:21 am
whoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 9:28 am
Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:51 am

The front-runner in a two horse race is rarely anything other than the favourite. If the S W Argus are reporting him to be the front-runner this must be based on something. They have either seen the bids or they are reporting information relayed to them by someone who has. They wouldn't be so unprofessional as to go on heresy from either bidders.

But you've used the term 'the' front runner, whilst the Argus article says 'a' front runner. They are not the same meanings or contexts, which is possibly why the article used 'a' and not 'the'.
We're being told it's a two horse race. In
a two horse race the frontrunner is 'the' frontrunner. They can't be anything else.
I disagree, by revealing the identity of this bidder, the first one to go public, the article has merely confirmed him/them as a front runner. There is nothing in the article that gives preferred content or reasons that make him/them 'the' front runner, ahead of any other bidder.

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