Re: The Takeover
256Could it be that two bids have merged, or are in the process of doing so? Or maybe one bidder has withdrawn.
As I said above, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the precise wording used in our much-loved local rag. That A or B is a front runner may just mean that he is one of the two left at the front of a larger field of contenders, who knows? It’s probably folly to analyse forensically the Sybil-like pronouncements made in an organ that is not highly respected for it’s good lucid prose.Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:21 amWe're being told it's a two horse race. Inwhoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 9:28 amBut you've used the term 'the' front runner, whilst the Argus article says 'a' front runner. They are not the same meanings or contexts, which is possibly why the article used 'a' and not 'the'.Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:51 am
The front-runner in a two horse race is rarely anything other than the favourite. If the S W Argus are reporting him to be the front-runner this must be based on something. They have either seen the bids or they are reporting information relayed to them by someone who has. They wouldn't be so unprofessional as to go on heresy from either bidders.
a two horse race the frontrunner is 'the' frontrunner. They can't be anything else.
Are you sure? Some of the wise old sages on here seem pretty adamant.Amberexile wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:24 amDB has not shown an interest, you were misled by disinformation. We don't really know that JP has either although maybe the recent activity will smoke him out.Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:09 amSame, I thought it was JP V DB. If Huw's aligned to one of these then that gets my vote.JonD wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:07 am I'm somewhat confused by bidders. I thought there were two but neither of them features Huw, so I assume he is affiliated to one of the two I have heard about. My, it's hard to keep up.
Not really. Front runner, favourite. Buy a thesaurus.Chris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:20 amYes, I've read the article twice and at no point does it say that HJ is the favourite. It says that he is " a frontrunner" (note 'a' not 'the') and "has long been a leading candidate" (again 'a' and not 'the'). So, have I read "that which is written" differently from Stan?whoareya wrote:Where does the Argus article say that he's the favourite?Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 12th, 2023, 8:00 pm Try reading that which is written.
The important word is that Huw Jenkins is the ''FAVOURITE' (Sorry to shout.)
If this were leaked by either Mr Jenkins or Mr Pratt the story line would merely be that Mr Jenkins is in the frame. Only the known attitude of the board could have allowed the words that Mr Jenkins is the favourite to have been written.
It is possible but extremely unlikely that analysis is incorrect.
It says 'a front runner' and 'a leading contender', not the favourite.
He specialises in equity funding with investors (and advising the current Conservative government, but that's another story) so I'm sure he's had discussions along those lines, but that might not have progressed to actually submitting a bid.Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:36 amAre you sure? Some of the wise old sages on here seem pretty adamant.Amberexile wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:24 amDB has not shown an interest, you were misled by disinformation. We don't really know that JP has either although maybe the recent activity will smoke him out.Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:09 amSame, I thought it was JP V DB. If Huw's aligned to one of these then that gets my vote.JonD wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:07 am I'm somewhat confused by bidders. I thought there were two but neither of them features Huw, so I assume he is affiliated to one of the two I have heard about. My, it's hard to keep up.
I think the difference may be in the use of the appropriate article. The Argus piece says 'a' and not 'the'.Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:42 amNot really. Front runner, favourite. Buy a thesaurus.Chris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:20 amYes, I've read the article twice and at no point does it say that HJ is the favourite. It says that he is " a frontrunner" (note 'a' not 'the') and "has long been a leading candidate" (again 'a' and not 'the'). So, have I read "that which is written" differently from Stan?whoareya wrote:Where does the Argus article say that he's the favourite?Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 12th, 2023, 8:00 pm Try reading that which is written.
The important word is that Huw Jenkins is the ''FAVOURITE' (Sorry to shout.)
If this were leaked by either Mr Jenkins or Mr Pratt the story line would merely be that Mr Jenkins is in the frame. Only the known attitude of the board could have allowed the words that Mr Jenkins is the favourite to have been written.
It is possible but extremely unlikely that analysis is incorrect.
It says 'a front runner' and 'a leading contender', not the favourite.
As I said aboveChris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:51 amI think the difference may be in the use of the appropriate article. The Argus piece says 'a' and not 'the'.Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:42 amNot really. Front runner, favourite. Buy a thesaurus.Chris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:20 amYes, I've read the article twice and at no point does it say that HJ is the favourite. It says that he is " a frontrunner" (note 'a' not 'the') and "has long been a leading candidate" (again 'a' and not 'the'). So, have I read "that which is written" differently from Stan?whoareya wrote:Where does the Argus article say that he's the favourite?Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 12th, 2023, 8:00 pm Try reading that which is written.
The important word is that Huw Jenkins is the ''FAVOURITE' (Sorry to shout.)
If this were leaked by either Mr Jenkins or Mr Pratt the story line would merely be that Mr Jenkins is in the frame. Only the known attitude of the board could have allowed the words that Mr Jenkins is the favourite to have been written.
It is possible but extremely unlikely that analysis is incorrect.
It says 'a front runner' and 'a leading contender', not the favourite.
Someone will correct me but I believe Colin Everett said there were 2 confirmed bids in a Radio Wales Sport programme before the Dons home game.whoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:46 amHe specialises in equity funding with investors (and advising the current Conservative government, but that's another story) so I'm sure he's had discussions along those lines, but that might not have progressed to actually submitting a bid.Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:36 amAre you sure? Some of the wise old sages on here seem pretty adamant.Amberexile wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:24 amDB has not shown an interest, you were misled by disinformation. We don't really know that JP has either although maybe the recent activity will smoke him out.Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:09 amSame, I thought it was JP V DB. If Huw's aligned to one of these then that gets my vote.JonD wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:07 am I'm somewhat confused by bidders. I thought there were two but neither of them features Huw, so I assume he is affiliated to one of the two I have heard about. My, it's hard to keep up.
Unless I've missed it, we don't actually know how many bids have been made, but the assumption is that only two bids have been submitted.
There may be/have been more.
'A', 'the' not the same.Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:42 amNot really. Front runner, favourite. Buy a thesaurus.Chris Davis wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:20 amYes, I've read the article twice and at no point does it say that HJ is the favourite. It says that he is " a frontrunner" (note 'a' not 'the') and "has long been a leading candidate" (again 'a' and not 'the'). So, have I read "that which is written" differently from Stan?whoareya wrote:Where does the Argus article say that he's the favourite?Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 12th, 2023, 8:00 pm Try reading that which is written.
The important word is that Huw Jenkins is the ''FAVOURITE' (Sorry to shout.)
If this were leaked by either Mr Jenkins or Mr Pratt the story line would merely be that Mr Jenkins is in the frame. Only the known attitude of the board could have allowed the words that Mr Jenkins is the favourite to have been written.
It is possible but extremely unlikely that analysis is incorrect.
It says 'a front runner' and 'a leading contender', not the favourite.
The way in which Jenkins has trialled his name (no doubt though allies) in the SW Argus and BBC makes me believe he is very much bidding solo or trying to pressure the other party to fall in lineexcessbee wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:25 am Could it be that two bids have merged, or are in the process of doing so? Or maybe one bidder has withdrawn.
Thanks for that, I suppose that fits in with the original deadline given, so perhaps there are just two.Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:52 amSomeone will correct me but I believe Colin Everett said there were 2 confirmed bids in a Radio Wales Sport programme before the Dons home game.whoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:46 amHe specialises in equity funding with investors (and advising the current Conservative government, but that's another story) so I'm sure he's had discussions along those lines, but that might not have progressed to actually submitting a bid.Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:36 amAre you sure? Some of the wise old sages on here seem pretty adamant.Amberexile wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:24 amDB has not shown an interest, you were misled by disinformation. We don't really know that JP has either although maybe the recent activity will smoke him out.Chepstow'sFine wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:09 amSame, I thought it was JP V DB. If Huw's aligned to one of these then that gets my vote.JonD wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:07 am I'm somewhat confused by bidders. I thought there were two but neither of them features Huw, so I assume he is affiliated to one of the two I have heard about. My, it's hard to keep up.
Unless I've missed it, we don't actually know how many bids have been made, but the assumption is that only two bids have been submitted.
There may be/have been more.
Morning Mike,lowandhard wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:35 amAs I said above, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the precise wording used in our much-loved local rag. That A or B is a front runner may just mean that he is one of the two left at the front of a larger field of contenders, who knows? It’s probably folly to analyse forensically the Sybil-like pronouncements made in an organ that is not highly respected for it’s good lucid prose.Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:21 amWe're being told it's a two horse race. Inwhoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 9:28 amBut you've used the term 'the' front runner, whilst the Argus article says 'a' front runner. They are not the same meanings or contexts, which is possibly why the article used 'a' and not 'the'.Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:51 am
The front-runner in a two horse race is rarely anything other than the favourite. If the S W Argus are reporting him to be the front-runner this must be based on something. They have either seen the bids or they are reporting information relayed to them by someone who has. They wouldn't be so unprofessional as to go on heresy from either bidders.
a two horse race the frontrunner is 'the' frontrunner. They can't be anything else.
I disagree, by revealing the identity of this bidder, the first one to go public, the article has merely confirmed him/them as a front runner. There is nothing in the article that gives preferred content or reasons that make him/them 'the' front runner, ahead of any other bidder.Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 10:21 amWe're being told it's a two horse race. Inwhoareya wrote: September 13th, 2023, 9:28 amBut you've used the term 'the' front runner, whilst the Argus article says 'a' front runner. They are not the same meanings or contexts, which is possibly why the article used 'a' and not 'the'.Stow Hill Sid wrote: September 13th, 2023, 8:51 am
The front-runner in a two horse race is rarely anything other than the favourite. If the S W Argus are reporting him to be the front-runner this must be based on something. They have either seen the bids or they are reporting information relayed to them by someone who has. They wouldn't be so unprofessional as to go on heresy from either bidders.
a two horse race the frontrunner is 'the' frontrunner. They can't be anything else.
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