Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:32 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:04 pm

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

We don't know though do we? And that we don't know is part of the problem. But let's look at what we do know.

Throughout 2022 the board minutes reported that finanancially we were on target, indeed slightly ahead of target. (And if anyone wants to complain that I constantly repeated that if we didn't know what the target was that in and of itself told us nothing then tough).

Then in March 2023. Gavin Foxall and Kevin Ward resign.

Then in May 2023 Peter Madigan states in the Argus that we 'Have no debts as such'.

And in July the club say the current Trust model is unsustainable.

The mutilated body of our club lies on the floor. The dagger dripping blood is in the hands of the grinning twisted and evil Jack D. Ripper. Jack then decides to go no comment.

But we didn't see Jack actually do it, so maybe Jack's innocent. Sometimes I despair.

And of course you miss out covid, and you miss out the fact that the accounts passed through a number of professionals who were advising the board, which of course efects the first section, but you choose to ignore as the actual facts dont suit.........

Gavin Foxall resigned due to ill health and Kevin Ward was promoted into a job which conflicts with his unpaid voluntary role with NCAFC. He therefore resigned the day after his promotion, but of course you don't do substantiation do you, so others have to help you with the actual facts...........

The end of your message is complete fantasy as usual.

I'm going to start with the part about Kevin Ward first. Well here goes. Kevin Ward knew about his promotion long before he resigned. Sorry to Burst your Bubble.

lowandhard wrote: September 15th, 2023, 12:42 pm

JonD wrote: September 15th, 2023, 11:37 am I cannot find anything particularly gut churning in this thread, Stan. It's just the usual level of insults.

I don’t find it usual to be called a liar and never have been called one by any person ever until this character Bangitinthenet has chosen to do so.
All I can say is that I’m disgusted by it and if that’s what passes as argument here then I’ve had it with this person or persons. I doubt that you’d be pleased to be insulted in such a way either. Perhaps my morals are a bit old-fashioned in that i found it distasteful to say the least. I’m out of any interaction with them and if you look around you’ll see I won’t be the only one.

Treat the accusation of lying as meaning "I think you are mistaken". It'll be better for your health.

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:32 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:04 pm

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

We don't know though do we? And that we don't know is part of the problem. But let's look at what we do know.

Throughout 2022 the board minutes reported that finanancially we were on target, indeed slightly ahead of target. (And if anyone wants to complain that I constantly repeated that if we didn't know what the target was that in and of itself told us nothing then tough).

Then in March 2023. Gavin Foxall and Kevin Ward resign.

Then in May 2023 Peter Madigan states in the Argus that we 'Have no debts as such'.

And in July the club say the current Trust model is unsustainable.

The mutilated body of our club lies on the floor. The dagger dripping blood is in the hands of the grinning twisted and evil Jack D. Ripper. Jack then decides to go no comment.

But we didn't see Jack actually do it, so maybe Jack's innocent. Sometimes I despair.

And of course you miss out covid, and you miss out the fact that the accounts passed through a number of professionals who were advising the board, which of course efects the first section, but you choose to ignore as the actual facts dont suit.........

Gavin Foxall resigned due to ill health and Kevin Ward was promoted into a job which conflicts with his unpaid voluntary role with NCAFC. He therefore resigned the day after his promotion, but of course you don't do substantiation do you, so others have to help you with the actual facts...........

The end of your message is complete fantasy as usual.

Citing COVID and the fact accountants and auditors checked and cocked up our accounts isn't substantiation either though. You're offering up potential reasons as to why we may have lost money. None of us are any the wiser as to what has actually gone on. All we know is, we went from having cash in the bank and being ahead of target to having not much in the bank and being unsustainable.

Whatever the reasons were, and you may be right, we simply don't know. And the sceptics among us are suggesting that the direction of travel where the takeover is concerned is being manipulated to ensure we never do know.

Torquay Exile wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:51 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:32 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:04 pm

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

We don't know though do we? And that we don't know is part of the problem. But let's look at what we do know.

Throughout 2022 the board minutes reported that finanancially we were on target, indeed slightly ahead of target. (And if anyone wants to complain that I constantly repeated that if we didn't know what the target was that in and of itself told us nothing then tough).

Then in March 2023. Gavin Foxall and Kevin Ward resign.

Then in May 2023 Peter Madigan states in the Argus that we 'Have no debts as such'.

And in July the club say the current Trust model is unsustainable.

The mutilated body of our club lies on the floor. The dagger dripping blood is in the hands of the grinning twisted and evil Jack D. Ripper. Jack then decides to go no comment.

But we didn't see Jack actually do it, so maybe Jack's innocent. Sometimes I despair.

And of course you miss out covid, and you miss out the fact that the accounts passed through a number of professionals who were advising the board, which of course efects the first section, but you choose to ignore as the actual facts dont suit.........

Gavin Foxall resigned due to ill health and Kevin Ward was promoted into a job which conflicts with his unpaid voluntary role with NCAFC. He therefore resigned the day after his promotion, but of course you don't do substantiation do you, so others have to help you with the actual facts...........

The end of your message is complete fantasy as usual.

I'm going to start with the part about Kevin Ward first. Well here goes. Kevin Ward knew about his promotion long before he resigned.

Well IF he did, he still resigned when a conflict of interest became an issue, IE the day after his promotion was announced by his employer........

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:04 pm

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

We don't know though do we? And that we don't know is part of the problem. But let's look at what we do know.

Throughout 2022 the board minutes reported that finanancially we were on target, indeed slightly ahead of target. (And if anyone wants to complain that I constantly repeated that if we didn't know what the target was that in and of itself told us nothing then tough).

Then in March 2023. Gavin Foxall and Kevin Ward resign.

Then in May 2023 Peter Madigan states in the Argus that we 'Have no debts as such'.

And in July the club say the current Trust model is unsustainable.

The mutilated body of our club lies on the floor. The dagger dripping blood is in the hands of the grinning twisted and evil Jack D. Ripper. Jack then decides to go no comment.

But we didn't see Jack actually do it, so maybe Jack's innocent. Sometimes I despair.

Indeed. Meanwhile, while Jack is detained pending investigation, bored and frustrated women like Bangit defend Jack and yearn for a romantic entanglement. Thing is, the yet to be appointed jury know the score and are horrified to hear that Jack has been put in charge of appointing the next Women in the East End’s next security officer.

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:58 pm

Torquay Exile wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:51 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:32 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:04 pm

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

We don't know though do we? And that we don't know is part of the problem. But let's look at what we do know.

Throughout 2022 the board minutes reported that finanancially we were on target, indeed slightly ahead of target. (And if anyone wants to complain that I constantly repeated that if we didn't know what the target was that in and of itself told us nothing then tough).

Then in March 2023. Gavin Foxall and Kevin Ward resign.

Then in May 2023 Peter Madigan states in the Argus that we 'Have no debts as such'.

And in July the club say the current Trust model is unsustainable.

The mutilated body of our club lies on the floor. The dagger dripping blood is in the hands of the grinning twisted and evil Jack D. Ripper. Jack then decides to go no comment.

But we didn't see Jack actually do it, so maybe Jack's innocent. Sometimes I despair.

And of course you miss out covid, and you miss out the fact that the accounts passed through a number of professionals who were advising the board, which of course efects the first section, but you choose to ignore as the actual facts dont suit.........

Gavin Foxall resigned due to ill health and Kevin Ward was promoted into a job which conflicts with his unpaid voluntary role with NCAFC. He therefore resigned the day after his promotion, but of course you don't do substantiation do you, so others have to help you with the actual facts...........

The end of your message is complete fantasy as usual.

I'm going to start with the part about Kevin Ward first. Well here goes. Kevin Ward knew about his promotion long before he resigned.

Well IF he did, he still resigned when a conflict of interest became an issue, IE the day after his promotion was announced by his employer........

Do you actually buy that excuse? Lol. Conflicts of interest arise in business all the time, you just acknowledge, document, and manage them.

He got out because he wanted out.

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 6:42 pm

rncfc wrote: September 15th, 2023, 5:27 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 2:16 pm

SixtyYearFan wrote: September 15th, 2023, 12:43 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:21 am

lowandhard wrote: September 14th, 2023, 8:29 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 14th, 2023, 7:16 pm

lowandhard wrote: September 14th, 2023, 6:20 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 14th, 2023, 12:35 pm

That's the biggest lie you have ever told, and boy you do like telling them, must run in the family..................

As usual you resort to insults having nothing in your armoury : there’s only one liar here and it sure as hell isn’t me.

Tell us via the accounts what RP lost compared to the NCAFC........

You dont even understand that you are lying do you, it's simply what you do.......

you really are a joke, we’re the ones who “know” that we’ve spent the money properly but apparently we can’t work out exactly what we spent it on, yes we’re a paragon of fiscal probity aren’t we? I know of no equivalent amnesia elsewhere. If you can be civil , I’ll respond ; if you can’t then this is my last engagement on this. And previously I was being entirely serious about your behaviour towards people, to abuse others without foundation is a serious matter, please think about that for a moment.

You are lying about OUR club debt, when the fact is that your son has run up the worst debts in ground management, and we now have that future problem to deal with...................................

I am not abusing you or him, I am speaking factually about the way you attack our outgoing board (who are people by the way) with lies about debt, when the incoming board have to deal with the mess that is RP.....................

What your son earns from the WRU is his business, but if he and other directors of RP are in future paid by RP (at least in part) that is very much our business..........................

You keep repeating this lie in the hope that it will become true, It’s not true, and you need to stop it. It’s the type of thing Stan does and it’s ridiculous.

So are you saying that the only director of both the Dragons and RP that was ever paid was Dean what ever his name was?

The trust directors of NCAFC are not paid by either NCAFC or the trust..........we know why that is, they are volunteers.......

Now are you asking everyone to believe that the director's of the Dragon's and RP are volunteers? And remuneration is NOT included under staff instead, in order for the WRU NOT to have to publish accounts including remuneration, that the other regions would simply complain about?

Nobody here gives a **** what the dragons directors are being paid, you obsessive, weird *******.

And nor am I as it is in the past, and you're obsessed by debts that are in the past. What I am interested in is the future, and if the £800k annual losses continue then that very much affects our future. Now I know you don't care who picks up the bill, as long as it is not you, but there you go........

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

Why would Flynn be entitled to a severance package, remember he walked out on us?

rncfc wrote: September 15th, 2023, 9:02 pm

Do you actually buy that excuse? Lol. Conflicts of interest arise in business all the time, you just acknowledge, document, and manage them.

He got out because he wanted out.

You gotta love Bangit. I do miss his insight.

Covid? Adversely affected only Newport County? Do me a favour.
As for il health. Another flight of fancy to really p!ss him off.

It is a cold grey morning at the old prison. A little after eight thirty a friendly warder knocks on the cell door of Dr Crippen.

"Morning Doc, nice day for a hanging."

"Can't say I agree. To tell you the truth I'm really down in the dumps. This falling through a trap door and having my neck broken has got me really, really depressed".

"I'll just have a quick word with the Governor, Doc".

Off trots our warder and five minutes later comes again through the cell door. "The Governer has decided seeing as you're depressed that we're not going to hang you after all. In fact you're free to go. But please don't make a habit of doing in your wives, cutting them up into little pieces and flushing them down the bog".

As a young man I suffered from depression. I don't think that gave me a get out of jail free card. And neither should it.

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:58 pm

Torquay Exile wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:51 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:32 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:04 pm

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

We don't know though do we? And that we don't know is part of the problem. But let's look at what we do know.

Throughout 2022 the board minutes reported that finanancially we were on target, indeed slightly ahead of target. (And if anyone wants to complain that I constantly repeated that if we didn't know what the target was that in and of itself told us nothing then tough).

Then in March 2023. Gavin Foxall and Kevin Ward resign.

Then in May 2023 Peter Madigan states in the Argus that we 'Have no debts as such'.

And in July the club say the current Trust model is unsustainable.

The mutilated body of our club lies on the floor. The dagger dripping blood is in the hands of the grinning twisted and evil Jack D. Ripper. Jack then decides to go no comment.

But we didn't see Jack actually do it, so maybe Jack's innocent. Sometimes I despair.

And of course you miss out covid, and you miss out the fact that the accounts passed through a number of professionals who were advising the board, which of course efects the first section, but you choose to ignore as the actual facts dont suit.........

Gavin Foxall resigned due to ill health and Kevin Ward was promoted into a job which conflicts with his unpaid voluntary role with NCAFC. He therefore resigned the day after his promotion, but of course you don't do substantiation do you, so others have to help you with the actual facts...........

The end of your message is complete fantasy as usual.

I'm going to start with the part about Kevin Ward first. Well here goes. Kevin Ward knew about his promotion long before he resigned.

Well IF he did, he still resigned when a conflict of interest became an issue, IE the day after his promotion was announced by his employer........

Are you not listening. He knew about the promotion long before he resigned. Not a day before, not a week before. A lot longer than you think. So wake up and smell the coffee.

rncfc wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:58 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:32 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:04 pm

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

We don't know though do we? And that we don't know is part of the problem. But let's look at what we do know.

Throughout 2022 the board minutes reported that finanancially we were on target, indeed slightly ahead of target. (And if anyone wants to complain that I constantly repeated that if we didn't know what the target was that in and of itself told us nothing then tough).

Then in March 2023. Gavin Foxall and Kevin Ward resign.

Then in May 2023 Peter Madigan states in the Argus that we 'Have no debts as such'.

And in July the club say the current Trust model is unsustainable.

The mutilated body of our club lies on the floor. The dagger dripping blood is in the hands of the grinning twisted and evil Jack D. Ripper. Jack then decides to go no comment.

But we didn't see Jack actually do it, so maybe Jack's innocent. Sometimes I despair.

And of course you miss out covid, and you miss out the fact that the accounts passed through a number of professionals who were advising the board, which of course efects the first section, but you choose to ignore as the actual facts dont suit.........

Gavin Foxall resigned due to ill health and Kevin Ward was promoted into a job which conflicts with his unpaid voluntary role with NCAFC. He therefore resigned the day after his promotion, but of course you don't do substantiation do you, so others have to help you with the actual facts...........

The end of your message is complete fantasy as usual.

Citing COVID and the fact accountants and auditors checked and cocked up our accounts isn't substantiation either though. You're offering up potential reasons as to why we may have lost money. None of us are any the wiser as to what has actually gone on. All we know is, we went from having cash in the bank and being ahead of target to having not much in the bank and being unsustainable.

Whatever the reasons were, and you may be right, we simply don't know. And the sceptics among us are suggesting that the direction of travel where the takeover is concerned is being manipulated to ensure we never do know.

We have been becoming more unsustainable as time has gone on this is due to the change at the majority of our opposition league teams that have parent companies meeting their losses, similar to RP and the WRU parent. As a club we had been using the cup money £1.2 million since 2019/2020 at roughly £400k a year (running a budget deficit) it didn't creep up on us, it was a policy decision to back the manager who was successful in cup competitions.
Covid didn't help, and obviously taking on players such as Dom Telford to replace Padriag Amond, are gambles. Some work out, some don't, but their wages are spread over several seasons, affecting several years budgets. If you gamble on a longer contract you may be able to sell, but it commits money to budgets that we can't guarantee, so is problematic to sustainability.

The accounts **** up happend when covid didn't allow for accurate income forecasts. **** ups happen, that's life......

We still had cash in the bank, and that would mask that income figures had been wrongly forcast as being ahead of target, because the target was clearly wrong.

If the trust subscriptions cannot provide what the opposition are spending we become uncompetitive over a period of time. We probably hoped for further cup success, or selling a player like Don Telford, or winning a playoff final, to boost the bank account.

None of these things happened, and thus if the club has someone like Jon Pratt making noises, then why not see what he could offer, particularly when the trust were already under pressure due to the fan base voting to look at hybrid investment. IMO investment isn't going to be forthcoming, if those bidding they know they have to pay millions just to take control of the clubs bank account.

It appears to me that they have allowed Jon Pratt and Huw Jenkins access to how the club operates, to see if more than one bidder would raise the stakes.

Wether that has happened, or they joined forces to bid lower, I agree we may never know. However that is the nature of these things, a number of planets have to align, and even the completion of the sale of RP could be a factor.

We fans probably will never know all the actual factors involved, and like me can only make a considered guess.........

Torquay Exile wrote: September 15th, 2023, 9:41 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:58 pm

Torquay Exile wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:51 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:32 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:04 pm

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

We don't know though do we? And that we don't know is part of the problem. But let's look at what we do know.

Throughout 2022 the board minutes reported that finanancially we were on target, indeed slightly ahead of target. (And if anyone wants to complain that I constantly repeated that if we didn't know what the target was that in and of itself told us nothing then tough).

Then in March 2023. Gavin Foxall and Kevin Ward resign.

Then in May 2023 Peter Madigan states in the Argus that we 'Have no debts as such'.

And in July the club say the current Trust model is unsustainable.

The mutilated body of our club lies on the floor. The dagger dripping blood is in the hands of the grinning twisted and evil Jack D. Ripper. Jack then decides to go no comment.

But we didn't see Jack actually do it, so maybe Jack's innocent. Sometimes I despair.

And of course you miss out covid, and you miss out the fact that the accounts passed through a number of professionals who were advising the board, which of course efects the first section, but you choose to ignore as the actual facts dont suit.........

Gavin Foxall resigned due to ill health and Kevin Ward was promoted into a job which conflicts with his unpaid voluntary role with NCAFC. He therefore resigned the day after his promotion, but of course you don't do substantiation do you, so others have to help you with the actual facts...........

The end of your message is complete fantasy as usual.

I'm going to start with the part about Kevin Ward first. Well here goes. Kevin Ward knew about his promotion long before he resigned.

Well IF he did, he still resigned when a conflict of interest became an issue, IE the day after his promotion was announced by his employer........

Are you not listening. He knew about the promotion long before he resigned. Not a day before, not a week before. A lot longer than you think. So wake up and smell the coffee.

It doesn't make one jot of difference, conflict wasn't a problem until he took up the appointment. So that is the only date that matters........

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 9:19 pm

rncfc wrote: September 15th, 2023, 9:02 pm

Do you actually buy that excuse? Lol. Conflicts of interest arise in business all the time, you just acknowledge, document, and manage them.

He got out because he wanted out.

You gotta love Bangit. I do miss his insight.

Covid? Adversely affected only Newport County? Do me a favour.
As for il health. Another flight of fancy to really p!ss him off.

It is a cold grey morning at the old prison. A little after eight thirty a friendly warder knocks on the cell door of Dr Crippen.

"Morning Doc, nice day for a hanging."

"Can't say I agree. To tell you the truth I'm really down in the dumps. This falling through a trap door and having my neck broken has got me really, really depressed".

"I'll just have a quick word with the Governor, Doc".

Off trots our warder and five minutes later comes again through the cell door. "The Governer has decided seeing as you're depressed that we're not going to hang you after all. In fact you're free to go. But please don't make a habit of doing in your wives, cutting them up into little pieces and flushing them down the bog".

As a young man I suffered from depression. I don't think that gave me a get out of jail free card. And neither should it.

The fantasy just gets more and more, in order to avoid stating anything that could resemble a fact, or anything that could substantiate facts.......

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 9:44 pm

Torquay Exile wrote: September 15th, 2023, 9:41 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:58 pm

Torquay Exile wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:51 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:32 pm

Stan A. Einstein wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:04 pm

wattsville_boy wrote: September 15th, 2023, 7:45 pm

The £800,000 is unlikely to be the figure that the club is losing every year. I believe that figure will include the severance package for Flynn and possibly many of his failed signings and a drastic reduction in income caused by COVID restrictions.

We don't know though do we? And that we don't know is part of the problem. But let's look at what we do know.

Throughout 2022 the board minutes reported that finanancially we were on target, indeed slightly ahead of target. (And if anyone wants to complain that I constantly repeated that if we didn't know what the target was that in and of itself told us nothing then tough).

Then in March 2023. Gavin Foxall and Kevin Ward resign.

Then in May 2023 Peter Madigan states in the Argus that we 'Have no debts as such'.

And in July the club say the current Trust model is unsustainable.

The mutilated body of our club lies on the floor. The dagger dripping blood is in the hands of the grinning twisted and evil Jack D. Ripper. Jack then decides to go no comment.

But we didn't see Jack actually do it, so maybe Jack's innocent. Sometimes I despair.

And of course you miss out covid, and you miss out the fact that the accounts passed through a number of professionals who were advising the board, which of course efects the first section, but you choose to ignore as the actual facts dont suit.........

Gavin Foxall resigned due to ill health and Kevin Ward was promoted into a job which conflicts with his unpaid voluntary role with NCAFC. He therefore resigned the day after his promotion, but of course you don't do substantiation do you, so others have to help you with the actual facts...........

The end of your message is complete fantasy as usual.

I'm going to start with the part about Kevin Ward first. Well here goes. Kevin Ward knew about his promotion long before he resigned.

Well IF he did, he still resigned when a conflict of interest became an issue, IE the day after his promotion was announced by his employer........

Are you not listening. He knew about the promotion long before he resigned. Not a day before, not a week before. A lot longer than you think. So wake up and smell the coffee.

It doesn't make one jot of difference, conflict wasn't a problem until he took up the appointment. So that is the only date that matters........

No it isn't. You are definitely not smelling the fresh coffee. You most probably still got the cup of coffee from last year you forgot to throw away, maybe you should throw that cup also.

JonD wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:56 pm

lowandhard wrote: September 15th, 2023, 12:42 pm

JonD wrote: September 15th, 2023, 11:37 am I cannot find anything particularly gut churning in this thread, Stan. It's just the usual level of insults.

I don’t find it usual to be called a liar and never have been called one by any person ever until this character Bangitinthenet has chosen to do so.
All I can say is that I’m disgusted by it and if that’s what passes as argument here then I’ve had it with this person or persons. I doubt that you’d be pleased to be insulted in such a way either. Perhaps my morals are a bit old-fashioned in that i found it distasteful to say the least. I’m out of any interaction with them and if you look around you’ll see I won’t be the only one.

Treat the accusation of lying as meaning "I think you are mistaken". It'll be better for your health.

I have no animosity towards you. I’ll treat the accusation of lying as I tend to take most statements ie at face value, consequently I’m insulted and do not forgive it. At my age I don’t take my health for granted but neither do I waste my time with the likes of Bangit even though any effect such intellectual lightweights would be able to exert on my health, mental or otherwise, would be negligible. Thank you for your kind thoughts.

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 2:16 pm

SixtyYearFan wrote: September 15th, 2023, 12:43 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 15th, 2023, 8:21 am

lowandhard wrote: September 14th, 2023, 8:29 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 14th, 2023, 7:16 pm

lowandhard wrote: September 14th, 2023, 6:20 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 14th, 2023, 12:35 pm

lowandhard wrote:

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 14th, 2023, 10:29 am

lowandhard wrote: September 14th, 2023, 10:27 am

it won’t stop a response mate, he’s like an extremely boring version of terminator or that girlfriend that just refuses to be ditched.

Says a family member of the person in charge of the worst run sporting business in Wales........

No, that’s us!

lowandhard wrote: September 14th, 2023, 12:21 pm

Bangitintrnet wrote: September 14th, 2023, 10:29 am

lowandhard wrote: September 14th, 2023, 10:27 am

it won’t stop a response mate, he’s like an extremely boring version of terminator or that girlfriend that just refuses to be ditched.

Says a family member of the person in charge of the worst run sporting business in Wales........

No, that’s us!

That's the biggest lie you have ever told, and boy you do like telling them, must run in the family..................

As usual you resort to insults having nothing in your armoury : there’s only one liar here and it sure as hell isn’t me.

Tell us via the accounts what RP lost compared to the NCAFC........

You dont even understand that you are lying do you, it's simply what you do.......

you really are a joke, we’re the ones who “know” that we’ve spent the money properly but apparently we can’t work out exactly what we spent it on, yes we’re a paragon of fiscal probity aren’t we? I know of no equivalent amnesia elsewhere. If you can be civil , I’ll respond ; if you can’t then this is my last engagement on this. And previously I was being entirely serious about your behaviour towards people, to abuse others without foundation is a serious matter, please think about that for a moment.

You are lying about OUR club debt, when the fact is that your son has run up the worst debts in ground management, and we now have that future problem to deal with...................................

I am not abusing you or him, I am speaking factually about the way you attack our outgoing board (who are people by the way) with lies about debt, when the incoming board have to deal with the mess that is RP.....................

What your son earns from the WRU is his business, but if he and other directors of RP are in future paid by RP (at least in part) that is very much our business..........................

You keep repeating this lie in the hope that it will become true, It’s not true, and you need to stop it. It’s the type of thing Stan does and it’s ridiculous.

So are you saying that the only director of both the Dragons and RP that was ever paid was Dean what ever his name was?

The trust directors of NCAFC are not paid by either NCAFC or the trust..........we know why that is, they are volunteers.......

Now are you asking everyone to believe that the director's of the Dragon's and RP are volunteers? And remuneration is NOT included under staff instead, in order for the WRU NOT to have to publish accounts including remuneration, that the other regions would simply complain about?

FFS this is crazy, Dean Ryan was the only Director paid, it actually states in their accounts that one director was paid. You are so wrong its now becoming really embarrassing and you need to stop.